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I just started looking on Craigslist for a Jointer/Planer. I figured out, I have no clue what I am looking for. I am not averse to the "old iron" or something that needs some TLC. Right away, the questions come up in my head, a 4" or a 6" or even bigger? Internal motor or external? Can you get blades for all the old stuff?

Here is one that is typical

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I expect with this one I would need a bit more information before I made a call.

The help I would like is what to look for and must have features or size and any other thing I would need to know to help me make an informed decision.

Thanks for any guidance you can provide.
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I would pass on that one. I have one and hate it. The fence won't stay at 90 degrees and the rear table isn't adjustable. Having the rear table adjustable makes changing the knives a lot easier.
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I'll take the opposite view

I had an older Craftsman 6" jointer for about 35 years, used it regularly, changed out the blades about once a year for sharp ones and finally gave it to a good friend who needed one after I got a new one, also a Craftsman.


Setting the blades was not a big issue. I used a simple technique with an aluminum bar,. I call it the "propulsion" method where you rotate the cutter head and the bar is propelled forward about 3/32" or so by the tip of the blades.The less it jumps the closer to dead level across the rear table they are. It took me about 15 minutes to change them out. My jointer had height screws that the blades rested on which controlled how much they were raised. If that model doesn't have those screws, the blade setting process would be a lot more difficult.... maybe. A friend uses a powerful speaker magnet to hold the blades level with the outfeed table, then locks them in place.

The fence had a 90 degree stop and you had to fuss with it a bit to make sure it was at 90 degrees, but should always check that setting before jointing just to make sure.

The price at $95.00 is about right, but I would offer less to start, but don't pay more.


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Well..For $100 I can get its ok....That is not a jointer I would tell a friend to get...No offence to aneyone..
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Any thoughts on a Delta JT360 jointer?
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Well..For $100 I can get its ok....That is not a jointer I would tell a friend to get...No offence to aneyone..
No offense taken.

Well, what would you "tell a friend to get" if you were asked?
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I started with a delta 6in open brace and it was a great jointer..Cant remember the model number...Im looking for more info on the Delta JT360.........I found it and it looks like you would have a hard time with any thing longer that 4ft because of its small size .

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I started with a delta 6in open brace and it was a great jointer..Cant remember the model number...Im looking for more info on the Delta JT360.........I found it and it looks like you would have a hard time with any thing longer that 4ft because of its small size .
Do you have any suggestions of what I should search for on the used market? I value your expertise.
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YMMV on this, but here's my opinion on the questions you asked:

Bigger is always better, provided you can afford it and power it. 6 inch jointer are going to be the most common and therefore the cheapest on the used market. If the majority of what youd be jointing is 6 or less inches wide, you can easily get by with a smaller jointer. That said, if you get a good deal on an 8 inch jointer, and have 220 to power it, you'll never regret the extra capacity. Personally, I'd avoid the 4 inchers. Too small for most general work. Admittedly, if you worked near-exclusively on smaller pieces, say you made models or something, you could get by pretty well with a 4 inch

Internal vs external shouldn't matter too much, you just really want to make sure what you're looking at is an induction motor, not universal, and preferably is easily replaceable if needed. Most are, save for those in benchtop models.

Dont worry too much about blades, most of the sizes are pretty standard and are easy to find.

As far as what to look for goes, personally I'd go for a 6 or 8 inch model, depending on your price range, with the longest bet length you can find, preferable solid cast iron, with a motor ideally in the 3/4-1hp range. I've got a Grizzly g0452 as my machine, and that's what I'm basing my recommendations on, build wise

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Do you have any suggestions of what I should search for on the used market? I value your expertise.
I'm no expert here just trying to help..epicfal48 gave great advice..
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Be a bit careful with older delta equipment, I recently bought a delta jointer that's about 10 years old, a critical adjustment part broke, and is no longer available. Luckily, a great member here machined me a new one!!!

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Be a bit careful with older delta equipment, I recently bought a delta jointer that's about 10 years old, a critical adjustment part broke, and is no longer available. Luckily, a great member here machined me a new one!!!
What model was that?

What was the part that broke?

How did it break?

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Any thoughts on a Delta JT360 jointer?
That one is a lot better. The only problem I could see is parts are getting difficult to get for Delta equipment however it's unlikely you would ever need any. The only thing that is likely to wear out is the bearings or the motor which could be replaced with stock parts.
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A jointer is one of the simplest machine tools. I prefer a longer bed length versus the short bed jointers. 6" is adequate for most of us. I prefer the external motor with a belt/pulley.
I tend to run my 6" jointer for several years before sharpening the blades. Only 3 simple knives and readily available for any brand.
Besides the longer bed length, I want a fully adjustable fence that will allow me to run 45 degree angled boards. A well made stand is a plus. I have no interest in a small bench-top jointer.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it over?
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What model was that?

What was the part that broke?

How did it break?

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Don't recall the exact model, but here's the pictures....


http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f12/s...my-shop-66121/

It was a few of the pot metal cast parts related to the height adjustment....here's the pictures of those problems....

http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f12/a...ll-mill-66200/

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Don't recall the exact model, but here's the pictures....


http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f12/s...my-shop-66121/

It was a few of the pot metal cast parts related to the height adjustment....here's the pictures of those problems....

http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f12/a...ll-mill-66200/
I guess the guy you bought it from broke it and sold it to you after.Not very nice on his part..There is no telling how he broke the part and I don't think someone can say the delta is not a good jointer to buy because of your unusual trouble..
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No, I broke it when hauling it I think. The issue with delta, and it's not just jointers, is that there's virtually no parts support for older models. Many others have had similar luck.

The tools don't make the craftsman....
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I just started looking on Craigslist for a Jointer/Planer. I figured out, I have no clue what I am looking for. I am not averse to the "old iron" or something that needs some TLC. Right away, the questions come up in my head, a 4" or a 6" or even bigger? Internal motor or external? Can you get blades for all the old stuff?

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I expect with this one I would need a bit more information before I made a call.

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I too have the same jointer (a planer is a different tool altogether), and I agree with the previously mentioned shortfalls. however with some tlc it keeps doing a good job for me. I would offer 50-75 tho if interested. think I paid over 300 new in 1981 or so.
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