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Jet ProShop (JPS-10ts) or Ridgid R4512

I'm upgrading my table saw from a Dewalt job site saw and have two saws in mind; the Jet ProShop JPS-10ts with cast iron wings (retail about $1,300) or the Ridgid R4512 from Home Depot (retail about $500 with a coupon).

Now, my current budget isn't enough for a new Jet but I've found one on Craigslist for almost the same price as the Ridgid ($550) and it looks to be in almost new condition. With that considered, which is the best saw for my money. I'm assuming the Jet, but I'm open to suggestions based on experience with either or both of these saws.
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I'd pick the jet hands down. A t-square fence, cast iron wings, and more power would make it an easy choice for me if it was in good shape.

The tools don't make the craftsman....
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Volkswagon or Ferrari - hmmm...

If the Jet is in good shape, there is no question that it's the one to pick. Note that the 4512 has (has had?) a problem with the saw blade changing angle when you raise or lower it. Lots of info on that on the internet.

Frankly, if you were just asking if you should buy the 4512, I'd still say no - get a high quality used saw before buying the Ridgid one. You can sometimes find decent used powermatics and grizzlys for that price or less.
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To be fair, the ridgid issues have largely been corrected in recent years. It's very rare for anyone to get one of those with issues now. But the jet does have much better specs

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If they offer to give you the rigid for free............run screaming from the building.

The Jet is far and away a better saw, forget about rigid.

The tools don't make the craftsman......a true statement often overused by individuals who haven't a clue about quality tools or true craftsmanship.
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Go buy the jet before someone else does
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obvious answer is obvious.

Finding the gems in CL are difficult, if this Jet gets by you, it could be days or months before another opportunity comes along.
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If they offer to give you the rigid for free............run screaming from the building.
The Jet is the better saw between the 2, and is definitely the one you should get, but this statement is just all kinds of dumb.
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The Jet is the better saw between the 2, and is definitely the one you should get, but this statement is just all kinds of dumb.
Thanks for your insight......

Absolutely everything I've dealt with from rigid was junk. And the good ol' internet is chock full of people having all kinds of problems with every known rigid tool.

I'll stand by my statement.

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Thanks for your insight......

Absolutely everything I've dealt with from rigid was junk. And the good ol' internet is chock full of people having all kinds of problems with every known rigid tool.

I'll stand by my statement.
I personally have an R4512 and haven't had any issues with it at all. I've been running it for a year and a half. Wouldn't hesitate to buy it again either.
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I personally have an R4512 and haven't had any issues with it at all. I've been running it for a year and a half. Wouldn't hesitate to buy it again either.
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I'll stand by my statement.
Good to see you are doubling down on the dumb.
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Good to see you are doubling down on the dumb.
LOL........

You're way ahead of me!

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No....I think most of us are with rbk here. The 4512 is a darn good saw for under 500 bucks. Find a better saw at that price point that isn't used, because that's not always an option in everyone's market.

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Any piece of equipment that has the kind of mechanical and quality control issues rigid represents is no bargain, regardless of the cost. I learned a long time ago an inferior tool will cost you far more in money, time, and frustration. It is sad that no manufacturer is offering a quality tool in that price range.

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So for the tens of thousands of people using them with no trouble?? They're delusional?

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So for the tens of thousands of people using them with no trouble?? They're delusional?
I second this statement. Apparently we have a very close minded forum member that would prefer people join his mindset rather than let them take info from other individuals that CURRENTLY OWN a Ridgid product and have no issues with it...
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I second this statement. Apparently we have a very close minded forum member that would prefer people join his mindset rather than let them take info from other individuals that CURRENTLY OWN a Ridgid product and have no issues with it...
Or perhaps this is a very closed minded forum unwilling to hear opinions and experiences from another viewpoint.

I don't CURRENTLY OWN a rigid product because every one I used was inferior, therefore each one was either returned or thrown away. My experience, simple as that. Evidently that kind of real world experience is not considered acceptable to some folks.

Oh well............

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Or perhaps this is a very closed minded forum unwilling to hear opinions and experiences from another viewpoint.

I don't CURRENTLY OWN a rigid product because every one I used was inferior, therefore each one was either returned or thrown away. My experience, simple as that. Evidently that kind of real world experience is not considered acceptable to some folks.

Oh well............

Have you had a 4512 saw specifically?

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Thanks for all of your messages and feedback. Let's stay on point. I've decided to go with the Jet. Now if I can get the guy to respond to my emails.
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