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Dust collection question?

Not sure if this is the right place for this but...
I've noticed some portable Cyclone Separator's being sold that snap onto a standard barrel/bucket and run between your tool and shop vac.
Just wondering if anyone has any experience with these and if they work?
I do a fair amount of sawing (furniture hobby and house repairs), but I don't think it's enough to invest in a major dust collection system. Mostly getting tired of brooming.
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The one I have fits over my garbage can - and I guess it does exactly what it was designed to do. The heavy objects fall to the bottom and the lighter dust goes to the vacuum system. My system just runs between my tools and my 1 HP Grizzle vacuum system. Is it totally necessary - probably not - but it keeps the heavy wood from striking the fan blade so that is good.

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I use one and find it works very well for what it is designed for, keeping the heavier chips out of my dust collection system and much easier to clean than my dust system.

For my system I found the separator cut down a little on the volume of air I was moving. But over-all a consideration for your dust system.

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You might want to check out Phil Thien's separator and the research he has put into it.

http://www.cgallery.com/jpthien/cy.htm

It has pretty good reviews if you google his name.
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For my system I found the separator cut down a little on the volume of air I was moving. But over-all a consideration for your dust system.
My system does the same thing and I do not understand why. If everything is sealed - to me - I would think the same amount of air should be drawn at the inlet. No matter what the length of the system is or what you have in between - as long as its all sealed.?? That video is something else - that system appears to really work. I was impressed.

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My system does the same thing and I do not understand why. If everything is sealed - to me - I would think the same amount of air should be drawn at the inlet. No matter what the length of the system is or what you have in between - as long as its all sealed.?? That video is something else - that system appears to really work. I was impressed.
Mine does the same thing, and found that the curves in the pipe (90 degree) and the seperator causes some resistance. A staight pipe has little resisitance.

Also going from a large pipe to a small or going from a small pipe to a large pipe in the system causes air change as well and not for the better.

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That is a great idea he has going. I know I could use a dust collector system and being able to make my own would work for me. I like making stuff no matter what it is.
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I am using a garbage can sized cyclone collector between my thickness planer and my 11/2 HP dust collector. It does not eliminate wood chips from getting into the DC bag, but it does reduce the volume by probably better than 90%. I have tried to reduce the 90 degree curves to the fewest possible, as they are a source of clogs.
I find that having the cyclone collector saves me a great deal of time because when it starts to fill up I just lift the lid off and take the garbage can out and empty it. It makes great garden mulch. This is a much simpler job than removing the bag from the DC and trying to get it back on again after I empty it.
The first thing I noticed when I started using my DC [without the cyclone] was that the planer chips would collect on the blower inlet and quickly clog it. The cyclone reduces the amount of times I have to pull the hose off and clear the inlet. Having clear hose lets me keep an eye on it.

Definitely a good investment, and they are not too pricey.

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Thanks for the knowledge guys... it's definitely helped.
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