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Not really much of a "score" in terms of an amazing deal, but a score nonetheless. I set out last night to take a look at a DW734 someone was offering. It was near Orlando so I figured I'd take the wife and treat her to a dinner. It was late -- the guy didn't respond to me until around 8PM.

Anyhow, I got there and find out he's selling most of his shop equipment in order to upgrade. If you know me, you know I'm new to woodworking and don't have a lot of tools under my belt quite yet. This guy was extremely knowledgeable and was eager share -- quite a resource. He had all kinds of hardwood in his shop that my wife and I got to pick up and smell. He showed us some of his work, including a HUGE desk he built for someone in Texas. All in all this guy was great, I learned a lot from him and my wife enjoyed seeing first hand what I hope this hobby will do for me.

So he ran a couple boards through the DW734 and the performance was great. He wanted $265 for it and it came with three sets of blades, one brand new. It was in great condition, ran great, sounded great.

I then turned my attention to his bandsaw. A Grizzly G0513 17" 2HP bandsaw. This guy looked like a beast. I had never researched bandsaws at that point and only knew it would be in my future. I'm not one to make many spontaneous purchases and like to research them -- I spent a good four weeks or so before I bought my miter saw! Some quick Googling and I found it to be a decent saw with the chief complaint being the fence. His was in great condition, ran great, about a year old. He was offering it with three blades, including a large resaw blade and a tiny scroll saw type blade. He wanted $750 for it.

I got him to agree to a little price cut for buying both. $950 for the planer, the band saw, three sets of planer knives, three blades for the saw, some hardwood stock he threw in, and a nifty hard plastic type rubber type belt for my contractor table saw that he says would increase its performance (I haven't researched it, never seen one like it before).

Retail, it looks like all of the above would run me $1000 for the saw (shipped), $430 for the planer, another $100 for the planer knives, and at least another $75 for the band saw blades. Not to mention the wood. So $950 vs $1600. Outside of the monetary value, it is hard to place a value on the information he gave me.

He also had a 3HP Grizzly 10" cabinet saw, a 3HP Grizzly dust collector, and a very nice Jet combination sander that he was willing to sell for $1200. A good deal, but I already have a 12" contractor table saw that I inherited from my great grandfather. Admittedly, when he turned that cabinet saw on, it was a world of a difference. Solid as a rock. Whereas my contract saw has quite a bit of vibration in the table. It was my first time seeing a cabinet saw in action. I am in the market for a dust collector but I'd have to upgrade his bag filters and build a separator for it.

I am lucky I took my wife with me as she is the one who helped me justify the purchases. I have a hard time spending this kind of money on me and she's been a great supporter. She was really engaged in the whole process and was eagerly listening to the guy talk about anything and everything. We ended up getting there around 8:45 and after talking, disassembling and loading into the car, we didn't leave until about 11:30PM. I just got back from taking her to breakfast since she didn't get to eat out last night!

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Great story! Your wife sounds like a wonderful person. WAF isn't something you'll ever have to worry about. She's your real score!
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Yes. She is definitely the best score I've made. Bringing her along last night was great, seeing all he did and talking with his wife really made a flip switch inside her. She was supportive before, but now she's eagerly supportive and finding project ideas she wants!
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.........Whereas my contract saw has quite a bit of vibration in the table.......
if your TS has a lot of vibration, that should be addressed as a safety issue. even cabinet saws can incur unacceptable occurrences of vibration. here's a short video of my 70s vintage c-man 113 series TS (0ne of two i own). note the nickel to the right of the fence.

http://

if your TS can't do this, start a tune up review and check all alignments. here's a good overview on setting up a TS:

http://http://www.newwoodworker.com/basic/tsalign.html

there's a solution to every problem.....you just have to be willing to find it.
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ummm

Did i really just see him feed a board halfway in and then take his hand off and turn the saw off? Please tell me that was some sort of special effect?
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Thanks for the tip on the table saw. I actually did a tune up before use after I finished the restore. It is odd. Usually after a little bit of running it will settle down completely. Not sure what this points to. The belt appears to be fine and lined up with the arbor.
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If it smooths out after running a while it is most likely the belt. A standard belt will have some memory after it has set for a while. Nylon link belts will help alleviate this problem since they have no memory.
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The rubber belt on it is new (bought it with the restore). As part of this Craigslist deal he gave me this belt kind of as an afterthought:
http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=6040&Max=999

I'll slap it on and see if it improves!
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that'll absolutely help. one of my saws has a link belt. pay attention to the direction arrows.

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I agree with toolguy. Let us know.
As Morris 76 said, you have a great partner. And, the tool prices weren't bad either.

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I'll see about putting the belt on tonight and report back.

I ordered new tires for band saw. The bottom one is rather loose. I noticed that when we were taking off the blade at his place but it didn't register as I'd never used a band saw before. It actually slipped off at his place and I just pushed it back on (didn't take much effort) without thinking. I put a blade on and adjusted the guides, tension etc, checking the tracking according to the manual. Did a few test cuts against the fence and was happy. Started my first free hand cut ever (going along a line I made) and was quite happy with my accuracy half way through when I heard a clanging noise and immediately stopped the saw. Yikes. Thankful I didn't have to change my shorts, I opened the bottom door and saw the tire had somehow slipped off the wheel with the blade still dead center on it (the wheel).

Some YouTube videos and reading later, I find that tire is supposed to be tight, even requiring soaking a new tire in hot water to be able to get it to stretch enough to get it on the wheel. About $30 later and I have a pair of new tires being delivered Thursday from Grizzly.

Not a good experience to have for my 3rd or 4th time using the (any) band saw!
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Forgot I had a picture on my phone:
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i'd replace the blade also. contact with the metal of the wheel could have damaged the teeth, and a band saw's performance is extremely reliant on the condition/weld accuracy of the blade being used. just my $.02.

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Hm. I'll bring it by a local blade shop and have them look at it. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea to bring all three that I got from the guy.
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In addition to the link belt a pair of machined steel pylleys will further decrease vibration.. I have a dime JB Welded to mine when I'm going to make a video.
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Update --

I didn't have time last night and very little tonight, but I managed to replace the rubber v belt on my table saw with the link belt. What a difference! It even passed the nickle test (nickle on the other side of the fence, of course)!

My band saw parts are coming in tomorrow. It is our 1yr anniversary this weekend so I won't be spending much if any time out in the shop so it will likely be next week before I am able to do anything and get to that blade shop.
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