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The Craftsman 21833 contractor's saw that is identical to the Ridgid 4512 is on sale at Sears for $469.39 for Sears Craftsman Club and/or Shop Your Way Rewards members. That would be 22% off! I got mine!

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that sounds like you got a great deal
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Especially when you consider this!

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Have you had a chance to set up this table saw? I've been reading about some alignment issues with this saw as you raise/lower the blade.
I'm in the market for my first table saw, and this is one I'm considering (if I don't go for something that takes less space like the R4510).

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Have you had a chance to set up this table saw? I've been reading about some alignment issues with this saw as you raise/lower the blade.
I'm in the market for my first table saw, and this is one I'm considering (if I don't go for something that takes less space like the R4510).

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I recently purchased the 21833 saw and have not had any problems with the arbor/blade alignment as the blade is raised or lowered. I took a great deal of care and time during the out of box setup to align the blade to the table using a dial indicator. My #1 issue with the 21833 is the rip fence. It is complete junk. When I align it to the miter slot to within +/- 0.005 it won't move. The extruded aluminium itself is not true and flat along the face of the fence with a twist that varies by 0.0163. Therefore, when it is perpendicular to the table in the front, it is off perpendicular in the back by a little more the 1/64".

I have a Delta T2 fence system ordered to replace the stock fence because other then the stock fence the 21833 preforms very well IMHO.

My brother on the other hand bought the R4512 last week and the stock fence on it is much better and can be adjusted true and still glide nicely. I tried to trade him my fence system for his but he wouldn't go for it .

If I had it to do over I would buy the Ridgid R4512 over the Craftsman 21833.
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So they are a little different then? I briefly looked at the R4512 and to my eyes, the fence seemed pretty decent (relative to my heap, that's not saying much). Have not compared it with the Craftsman. I'm in the market for about this price-range so thanks for the feedback (Amazon had the Steel City 35990C for $649 recently and now it's $800!)

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The Craftsman 21833 contractor's saw that is identical to the Ridgid 4512 is on sale at Sears for $469.39 for Sears Craftsman Club and/or Shop Your Way Rewards members. That would be 22% off! I got mine!

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I bought the R4512 back in January, and I'm just getting around to using it more often due to weather. The fact that it's on wheels screws with the alignment of the front rail. I have had the fence off 3 times to re-align. I used loc-tite and stopped moving it around. So far so good. They shoulda had one piece rail. Also 3/4" plywood bogs it down extremely bad with the stock blade. A new blade is a must. After these minor tweaks it's not too bad, but a bit overpriced IMO.

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I bought the R4512 back in January, and I'm just getting around to using it more often due to weather. The fact that it's on wheels screws with the alignment of the front rail. I have had the fence off 3 times to re-align. I used loc-tite and stopped moving it around. So far so good. They shoulda had one piece fence. Also 3/4" plywood bogs it down extremely bad with the stock blade. A new blade is a must. After these minor tweaks it's not too bad, but a bit overpriced IMO.
Slick - You'll definitely want a better blade for furniture work, but even with a stock blade that saw should cruise through 3/4" without hesitation. Alignment can make a huge difference, double check and make sure the blade and fence are perfectly aligned.

OTR (ooh...that sounds bad! ) - Thanks for the tidbit about the fence differences.
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I meant to say a "One piece front rail" not fence. Minor tweaks and shes not so bad, just a lil underpowered, but then again my old saw was a 5 HP unisaw!

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Looks like this saw goes on sale again next week via the craftsman club, though it doesn't look like its as good a deal as Mr Mac got on it. Might have to go check it out.
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I purchased this saw this weekend and I almost have it completely assembled.

Observations with my saw:

Installation instructions seemed adequate, I didn't have any issues with assembly.
Out of the box the blade alignment looks pretty good. I still need to use a dial indicator, but it looks pretty darn close.
The blade alignment doesn't change when raising or lowering the blade (I know that has been a complaint I read about with this saw).

Fence rails: The support bar that connects the front and rear fence rails on the right side is too long and not square. Long by about 1/16", enough to make the fence not go on easily if at all. Easily fixed (if you have metal tools, I do), but still a bummer. On the other hand, a rtr table extension might take its place (though the rear fence rail strength for it is questionable).

Fence: I haven't measured it for straightness yet. Fence to blade was off by 1/8" on the right (still need to check left side) and the plastic indicators move all over when tightening it back down.

Mitre guage: Don't like the design on the stops, the little pin that can be pulled out to allow moving past the 90/45 degree stops allows too much play at those stops.

Based on reading, didn't bother with the supplied blade. Picked up a Freud Diablo series blade.
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