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Craftsman fence to Grizzly band saw.

Got the Craftsman fence basically installed, few little things to do yet.Third pic shows the mounting/adjustment screw for the front rail, will probably change the 1/4" bolt shown for a 5/16" or a 3/8" one for more rigidity. Need to swap the 1/4" bolt shown as it's a round head, and I need to put in countersunk flat heads to miss the fence clamp. (Didn't have any flatheads, so temporarily used RH). RH were ok for initial fit, will be a size change anyway when done. Fence clamps securely.

One other thing - how many band saw owners use the miter gauge? I have used a makeshift fence several times since acquiring the saw, but never needed the miter gauge. If I want to use a miter gauge I'll have to slot the rails, (see last pic. Don't know if I'll bother or not.
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What a great idea. I don't understand why they include a fence with most BS's they aren't worth having. Did you have to cut the Craftsman fence off because it was too long? It seems to me you would. My BS is a 14" Grizzly and I do a lot of resawing (nothing big) and I use Timberwolf blades. I have a 3/16" blade and a 1/2" blade with 3TPI. I like the 3TPI because it gets rid of the sawdust.

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What a great idea. I don't understand why they include a fence with most BS's they aren't worth having. Did you have to cut the Craftsman fence off because it was too long? It seems to me you would. My BS is a 14" Grizzly and I do a lot of resawing (nothing big) and I use Timberwolf blades. I have a 3/16" blade and a 1/2" blade with 3TPI. I like the 3TPI because it gets rid of the sawdust.
I didn't have to cut the Craftsman fence off. Third picture shows the standoff for fine adjustment, whole thing is basically 3 pieces of angle iron. Saw is a Grizzly G1019 14" with the riser block. Required only drilling 2 new holes in the back side of the table, tapped 1/4-20.

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the miter slot issue

Typically, the fence rail sits below the miter slots, so no need to cut that portion away. Your fence must not allowed for that? I like to have the miter gauge available for cutting off square to the length of the workpiece, so I would make any changes to accomplish that. Slotting the top of the rail wouldn't weaken it so that's a choice. You could fit a long rectangular section down the entire rail, so when you slot it, there won't be a gaping hole to catch stuff.

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Most bandsaws don't cut that straight anyway so a miter gauge is pretty well useless, particularly if you have a miter saw for cross cuts.

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Typically, the fence rail sits below the miter slots, so no need to cut that portion away. Your fence must not allowed for that? I like to have the miter gauge available for cutting off square to the length of the workpiece, so I would make any changes to accomplish that. Slotting the top of the rail wouldn't weaken it so that's a choice. You could fit a long rectangular section down the entire rail, so when you slot it, there won't be a gaping hole to catch stuff.
I didn't have the rails from the old saw. In the second picture you can see the arm that tightens on the rail - it only sticks below the table surface about 3/8" or less, necessitating the rail be flush with the table top. A slot in that angle iron would cut completely through the top flange and down into the side flange of the angle iron, so I would have to beef that area up a bit. Could do it, more work.


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Most bandsaws don't cut that straight anyway so a miter gauge is pretty well useless, particularly if you have a miter saw for cross cuts.
My thinking exactly, and I just sold my Hitachi miter saw, and am picking up a 12" dual bevel slider today.

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I bought a 1953 Delta 890 bandsaw last Fall. It came with a miter gauge. I bought a Kreg bandsaw fence, the Kreg micro-adjuster, and the two Kreg resaw guides that work with it. I use them all, except for the micro-adjuster.

The fence is a perfect fit for my saw and I use it often. I have not done that much resawing, so the jury is still out on the resaw guides. About half the time, I use the fence alone, and the other half I use one of the resaw guides. I think the consistency issues are about getting more practice with them. I have a future project planned, where I will need very thin boards, so that practice will be coming soon.

The Kreg micro-adjuster was a waste of money, in my opinion. It is difficult to adjust when it is attached, and it seems to get in the way more than it helps. I wonder whether its precision is lost on a bandsaw anyway.

I definitely use the miter gauge on my bandsaw. A lot. I use it more like a "small parts sled." It is helpful for making quick, safe, square crosscuts on small pieces. I roll my tools outside to use them, but sometimes I will use the bandsaw in its storage place in the garage without rolling it outside, just to make a quick cut. I use whatever blade is installed. I pull an extension cord to the bandsaw, tighten the tension on the blade, and make the cut. Because the pieces are small, the sawdust is minor and easily ignored.

I turned a pen the other day. The lathe was outside where I work, but I cut the pen blank in half on the bandsaw in the garage, using the miter gauge for the cut. I "clamped" the pen blank against the miter gauge with my right hand, which was protected from the blade by the miter gauge itself. I lined up the mark with the blade and made the cut. Yes, I could have easily made the cut without the miter gauge, using one hand on either side of the blade. I know that the cut did not have to be perfectly square. At the same time, there is something to be said about the relaxed comfort of using the miter gauge to improve ease of use and increase safety.

I could have made the cut on my table saw with the small parts sled. The table saw blade kerf is wider, and I would have had to roll out the table saw and set it up first (along with the dust collection cart). The bandsaw and its miter gauge made the cutting the pen blank quick and easy, with a very thin kerf. Sawdust was minimal.

P.S. We have a miter saw, but I would prefer to use the bandsaw or table saw for crosscuts on small parts like pen blanks.

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