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post #21 of 25 Old 01-08-2020, 11:10 PM
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I learned a long time ago as a machinist that precision is a relative thing but higher precision always translates into higher cost. The reality is that very good work can be done in woodworking without machinist quality precision. There are occasions when tolerances need to be close but it normally can be managed by comparing part-to-part instead of working to a measuring device. Any competent woodworker should be able to construct good furniture with shop made instruments and basic hand tools. After all, high quality woodwork was produced for hundreds of years before modern tools came on the market. I know tool manufactures would have you believe otherwise and that, unfortunately, discourages a lot of beginning woodworkers. Save your money or spend it as you wish but don't expect expensive tools to make you a better woodworker.
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I learned a long time ago as a machinist that precision is a relative thing but higher precision always translates into higher cost. The reality is that very good work can be done in woodworking without machinist quality precision. There are occasions when tolerances need to be close but it normally can be managed by comparing part-to-part instead of working to a measuring device. Any competent woodworker should be able to construct good furniture with shop made instruments and basic hand tools. After all, high quality woodwork was produced for hundreds of years before modern tools came on the market. I know tool manufactures would have you believe otherwise and that, unfortunately, discourages a lot of beginning woodworkers. Save your money or spend it as you wish but don't expect expensive tools to make you a better woodworker.
So true.

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I bought a large Starrett framing square for around $20 IIRC. DUNNO maybe $25.

It is square. Tossed the old one that was off by about 1/8 at the end of the long arm.

BTW - A friend that is a framer told me that if you drop a framing square you better check it for trueness.

BTW 2 - I bought a small framing square 20 or 30 years ago. I added some wood on the short side with brass sex screws (a.k.a. Chicago Screws) through the square. It is still square after all these years but it hasn't been dropped.

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I should have said something earlier, so sorry. Did anyone else notice the text on the webpage for those squares, where it said:

"Note:
1.Please allow 1-3cm error due to manual measurement. Please make sure you do not mind before you bid.
[...]"

That was enough for me to pass on those squares.
Perhaps they were referring to the size of the squares, not how accurate they are, that is pretty well a standard disclaimer on most websites.

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I really like Woodpeckers tools, and I have a few, like three. If I was rich I would have a few more but not every tool they make. I would like to have a few Festool tools. I don't have any of those. There is a lot of people in the USA that can afford these high priced and I don't think it's a sin to want or buy them. So if Woodpecker can make these high priced tools and get rich making and selling them I am happy for them.

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