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Union #7

I just jumped on this plane ... it was a buy it now for $69. I hope I didn't blow my money.
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I just jumped on this plane ... it was a buy it now for $69. I hope I didn't blow my money.
The plane looks in decent shape from this single picture.

It should clean up without too much trouble.

I do not feel you are blowing your money.
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Are Union planes considered pretty good planes?
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Is the sole flat? Is the back side of blade in decent shape (not too pitted, esp near the cutting edge)? Does the cap keep the blade/chip breaker in place? They're not bad planes, you should have no trouble getting it running well.
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Are Union planes considered pretty good planes?
A good question, and the answer may depend on whom you ask.

Back in the day companies like Union, Sargent and Millers Falls were strong competitors of Stanley. I expect in some cases the competitors made good or better planes. Stanley clearly won the market.

I have not read much about Union planes, but from the little I have read they were decent planes. Looks like a Bailey style.

I cannot tell if this has all the features of an equivalent Stanley. I am seeing lateral adjustment lever. Cannot tell if there is a frog adjustment screw which is a nice feature, but more of a one-time setting benefit.

If the blade can be sharpened without loosing the hardened portion so that it holds an edge, this should be a good plane for you.

You may need to lap the sole. Common to either not be lapped well at the factory, or wear over the years results in a slight concave sole. The middle tends to be worn more than the sides.
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Assuming no cracks in the casting, I think you did pretty dang well, Chris.
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I have one of these and it's a nice plane.

Does it have the original cutter? THe one on mine is original and pretty massive.
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ok thn. no buyer's remorse. from the looks of it, given all the rust, it sure looks like everything is original.
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I think you'll be happy Chris. I've restored a few Unions and they are on par with the other major manufactures. I always liked the way their front know was shaped. It also had the knurl at the bottom that was only on the very early Stanleys.
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ok thn. no buyer's remorse. from the looks of it, given all the rust, it sure looks like everything is original.
You call that rust.

Tis but a bit of dis-colouration.

My rust buckets on the other hand could show your Union #7 a thing or two about rust.

Seriously, from the picture, the side is very superficial rust. This would clean off with wet-dry paper if you did not want to use oxalic acid, etc.

The jappaning on the inside of the sole appears intact, just a lot of grime and dust over the years. This should easily come off with e.g., hand cleaner, or detergent and an old tooth brush.
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i guess i will try cleaning it up with soap and water first, and then move to stronger cleaners only if necessary.
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