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stanlay #4 identification

Hi guys,

As a part of my workshop startup, I am looking for old Stanley planes in my budget.

I am reading a lot about how to identify old Stanley. I encounter a clean plane for $45. I guess it is type 17. I appreciate any ideas and suggestions about this plane or in general buying a good startup use plane?

Thanks a lot.
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Iíve bought several old planes over the years. Old planes may go through several owners or tool resellers before we Buy them. Original parts can be lost or damaged. We really have to be careful about buying old planes that may have been altered or assembled from parts of other planes. At first examination this may not be detected. You find out the hard way that the iron or some other part was not originally made for the plane. Flea markets tend to mix the parts to sell a complete plane.
It can really ruin what you thought was a great purchase.
Parts can usually be found to correct the issue and restore the plane correctly but that cost more money and ruins your good deal.
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If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it over?
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Iíve bought several old planes over the years. Old planes may go through several owners or tool resellers before we Buy them. Original parts can be lost or damaged. We really have to be careful about buying old planes that may have been altered or assembled from parts of other planes. At first examination this may not be detected. You find out the hard way that the iron or some other part was not originally made for the plane. Flea markets tend to mix the parts to sell a complete plane.
It can really ruin what you thought was a great purchase.
Parts can usually be found to correct the issue and restore the plane correctly but that cost more money and ruins your good deal.
Sounds like what happened to me with my first plane, bought at Goodwill. The blade is not the original, and I have finally recognized that I do not have the stamina to flatten the back on it. I have already invested 8 hours into it, and it is at least another 4 hours to go. At least. My hand plane expert friend advised me to get rid of it and buy a new Ron Hock blade ($80), but that would have cost 4x the original hand plane at the thrift store. I am not sure what I will do next, probably substitute a good blade from another plane. I am beginning to think that I will buy two or three new high-end hand planes, which will jumpstart (bypass?) my restoration work to get my hand planes "online" faster. I don't need any more practice at restoration. What I want is practice with sharp hand planes!
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post #4 of 5 Old 02-01-2018, 09:11 PM
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The price of old hand planes has really jumped in the past 10 years.
Non woodworkers are buying them for shelf decoration.
A $15 plane a few years ago is now $40.
I have learned the hard way. Iíve purchased 8 used planes but only 6 are worth a flip after restoration.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it over?
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I decided pretty quickly that lapping a plane by hand is painfully slow and a milling machine with a fly cutter is more my speed.
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