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post #1 of 9 Old 05-01-2019, 05:42 PM Thread Starter
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So...I hate my bench

Confessions of a Frustrated Woodworker - Part I: The Workbench

Last summer I built the Paul Sellers Nicholson-style knockdown bench. You can follow the build progress here. It was my first bench, built with a bare minimum of tools and experience. Now that I have a bit more of both, I feel like the bench is holding me back.

1. This bench is not designed for preparing rough stock. Paul prepares all of his stock with machines, which I don't have and probably never will. As sadistic as it sounds, I enjoy the process (frustrating as it is on this bench). I find myself wanting a real dog system, complete with end vise or wagon vise.

2. Limited clamping options. Due to the aprons, you can't really use much of the bench surface to clamp against. And because the face vise isn't flush with the front apron, you can't really use the front apron as a clamping surface. The tool well prohibits using the entire back side of the bench - so all you're left with are the ends.

3. It's too narrow. Nuff said here. It's okay for small projects, but becomes a problem for anything bigger than a bread basket.

4. It's not long enough (that's what she said). Ever since the CEO approved using the entire 2-car garage as my shop, my bench keeps looking smaller and smaller.

Guess I just needed to air my grievances. I think I'm going to build a new bench - a Roubo style this time. With more goodies.
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check out my sketch, 7ft bench - it's close to roubo style but instead of leg vise a veritas sliding tail vise

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/mod...672c/workbench

for dimensional stock preparation, a drill press vise is a good option that can be used temporary with a table
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Sorry Anthony...I'm sure your next will be a lot more to your liking, since now you know what you don't like...

Good luck and here's a video of a dear friends work you may like and to inspire you...!!!


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Well, it looks like this will be happening after all.

Got a quote on some hickory, and I can't pass it up. Every board hand-inspected to be free of knots, cut slightly oversized so I can hand plane them to final dimensions. The top will be laminated of course, but everything else will be solid - including the 5" square legs. All for less than I can buy pine for at the big box store. I'm ashamed to post the price, because it feels like I'm stealing it. I had to ask him for confirmation twice, because I thought it was a typo.

The vice hardware is expensive, so it may be awhile before the bench comes together. I figure a hickory bench will last the rest of my lifetime, so I might as well put good hardware in it.
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Well, it looks like this will be happening after all.



Got a quote on some hickory, and I can't pass it up. Every board hand-inspected to be free of knots, cut slightly oversized so I can hand plane them to final dimensions. The top will be laminated of course, but everything else will be solid - including the 5" square legs. All for less than I can buy pine for at the big box store. I'm ashamed to post the price, because it feels like I'm stealing it. I had to ask him for confirmation twice, because I thought it was a typo.



The vice hardware is expensive, so it may be awhile before the bench comes together. I figure a hickory bench will last the rest of my lifetime, so I might as well put good hardware in it.


Dont know if youve watched it, but Third Coast Craftsman has a really nice video on building a workbench. Same with Wood By Wright, who does mostly hand tool work from rough stock.


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No turning back now! Went and picked up the hickory today. It's pretty green, so the build thread will probably be later this summer. I've got enough projects lined up to keep me busy while this stuff dries out.

He threw in some extra scraps as well, including a nice piece of figured Ash with some cool spalting in it. The county fair is coming up soon, I'm thinking a Paul Sellers wall clock made of cherry and ash might bring home a ribbon. :)
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Can't wait to see it!

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Sounds like a fun project. Be sure the wood has reached equilibrium before you start.
I've got an old German made traditional European style bench. Bought it cheap at auction. It was a mess. Made of beech.
What I really like about it: Wooden side and tail vices, square bench dogs with springs that keep them where they need to be. I've added an adjustable support on the side, opposite the end of the side vice so I can clamp long parts to the side of the bench. Fixed jaw of the side vice is the side of the bench.
I've often thought I'd like a pinch dog (wrong name?) clamp (a bar that drives into the dog slots and has a piece of spring steel to clamp the work)but never got around to getting one. The tool tray is OK but I keep a rolling cart near for tools.
This type of bench allows you to hold flat work W/O anything sticking above the work. Nice for using a plane. I've got a shooting board that I can dog-clamp to the top.
Using hand tools is great therapy. I've made a variety of wooden hand planes.
I still like my power tools but they don't give the same satisfaction, feeling of accomplishment.
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Hey bud sorry to hear your bench didnt work out for you. On the bright side now you KNOW what you want in a work bench and you can build one to fit your style of work. Maybe you can sell your other bench to help offset some of the cost for the new one. I followed your first build and look forward to seeing your new bench

P.S. Im incredibly jealous about the hickory. Nice find.
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