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post #81 of 91 Old 01-14-2013, 09:53 AM
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What about the rest of the tape? There is the possibility that it's printed incorrectly.
It seems to me that is a worry that is at the same time not very realistic, and also extremely difficult to determine.

If you are going to worry about that, are you also going to worry that the distance between inchs 17 and 18 might be a tad big, but the difference is made up because it is a tad short between 16 and 17?
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A Tape Measure Calibration Tool will help you find an accurate tape measure.

Placing a properly bent "End Hook" in the right location, with the rivets set just right, and exactly in line with the blade, is a real challenge for tape measure manufactures. They make too many, too fast, and they make them in China or Mexico where no one really cares how your project comes out.

Use a tape measure calibrator to find an accurate tape measure at the store. Then use it to keep your tape measure accurate.
I believe the Stanley fax max brand tapes are still made in new Britain ct. Or at least assembled there. Let put it this way, if you go to their factory there's a huge dumpster outside full of tapes (unwound and without cases) that haven't passed muster.
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It seems to me that is a worry that is at the same time not very realistic, and also extremely difficult to determine.

If you are going to worry about that, are you also going to worry that the distance between inchs 17 and 18 might be a tad big, but the difference is made up because it is a tad short between 16 and 17?
I don't worry about it. Having other tapes to check it eliminates my concern. But it could be possible that somewhere along the tape there could be a problem. But, I wouldn't do what Steve does to the ends of the tapes.





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Well Stevie...I would never do that. All you've done is to make the first 27" read the same. What about the rest of the tape? There is the possibility that it's printed incorrectly.

Bending the End Hook to regain accuracy will only work if your tape
measure was accurate to begin with. The biggest culprit of accuracy problems is the dropped tape. This can easily shorten a tape measure 1/8". A Tape Measure Calibrator (a Lixer) will make this easy.

The printing on Starrett and Lufkin tape measures are much better than Stanley. If accuracy is an issue don't use generic tapes.







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Hello Jtrom,
I understand your dilemma entirely. I purchase the tape measures for the employees at my Manufacturing Company and reject 75% due to the scales being different. I've purchased tape measures for the last 20 years and am amazed at the acceptable tolerances.
For a woodworker in their home shop or even a production facility, the error is acceptable (wood can be made to fit) But for a metal production plant the error cant be allowed; or items wont work.
If GM or Toyota used the tape measures with the allowed tolerances, YIKES!
I understand the problem totally and take a two percision measurement devices with me to the store and only purchase the tape measures that make the cut.
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I probably have around a dozen tape measures which 6 are the harbor freight freebies. They all measure alike except for one of the HF tapes. I think tapes have gotten better over the years. I've worked at shops where you couldn't cut anything unless you used the one shop tape measure.
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Hello Jtrom,
I understand your dilemma entirely. I purchase the tape measures for the employees at my Manufacturing Company and reject 75% due to the scales being different. I've purchased tape measures for the last 20 years and am amazed at the acceptable tolerances.
For a woodworker in their home shop or even a production facility, the error is acceptable (wood can be made to fit) But for a metal production plant the error cant be allowed; or items wont work.
If GM or Toyota used the tape measures with the allowed tolerances, YIKES!
I understand the problem totally and take a two percision measurement devices with me to the store and only purchase the tape measures that make the cut.
We have a cabinet shop and accurate measurements are important to us as well. Inaccurate measurements cost time and money and certainly a great deal of frustration.

We also use "two precision measurement devices" a calibrated tape measure and a tape measure calibration tool (Lixer Tools) www.lixertools.com. This helps everyone in our shop stay on the same page (peacefully).
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I live near a HF so I get lot of free tapes. I would guess I have between 40 and 50 tapes, but I don't use these they are just hung for display or if ever used to find the distance between to points. The tapes that do get used are my Stanley's. I have several but lately I have been migrating to my Fat Max, I think because I can see it better. To be honest when in the shop I use my Lufkin folding 6-foot rule. It is what my Father a union carpenter always used. Old habits are hard to brake.

The main thing is to always use the same measuring device on a project that you started with.

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I'm really disappointed in the fat max tapes lately. I just bought a new one to replace the one that found its way into the saw blade (by the way...the blade armor doesn't hold up against a radial arm saw attack) and the new ones blade printing seems much less precise and clear. Hoping its a bad batch, but over all the tape measure seems cheaper.

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I only really know of one tape that was completely out of whack and it was something my mother-in-law bought from a dollar store.

I found that as long as I use the same tape throughout a project I don't have a problem. Its only when I'm measuring something to relay to someone else that things go wrong, but even than it's usually less than an 1/8" depending on how long the measurement is.

Anyway I wasn't going to respond to this when I realized how old this thread is, but since so many have already replied I figured what the heck

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I just use the same tape measure for the entire project. Keep it simple.

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