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Rhaugle 04-12-2019 12:28 AM

"must" have hand planes
 
Hi guys.. birthday is coming up in a couple months and im wondering which hand plane to put on my list. For a long time I was set on the veritas LA jack, but not sure anymore...

I currently have a 1950s Stanley no.4, a newer (cheap, plastic handle) no.5, a 1925-28 Stanley no.7 (still a rust bucket, bought at an auction and I need to clean still), an unknown maker sized between the Stanley 4 &5, and a Kobalt block plane.

I do not have a rabbit plane. As I said before, I was set on the LA Jack, but now thinking maybe a rabbit block plane?

Suggestions?

GeorgeC 04-12-2019 08:15 AM

It would help to know what kind of woodworking that you do. Unless you are just collecting planes.


George

Rhaugle 04-12-2019 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeC (Post 2049923)
It would help to know what kind of woodworking that you do. Unless you are just collecting planes.


George

Right now I am a hybrid worker.. I use hand tools and power tools. Say for dados.. I'll cut with a dado stack, and clean up with a chisel (no rabbit plane). I enjoy cutting dove tail by hand. I'm a mix of the two styles.

I would eventually like to use more hand tools, but that's many years away. I have a 6" jointer and 13" planer, so anything larger than that, gets hand planed.

gmercer_48083 04-12-2019 09:55 AM

Rhaugle, I would suggest a router plane, which works well for accurate tenon sizing. When considering a rebate plane...think about the width. A wide rebate plane may not fit into a narrower dado. I have made several hand planes, and with each have used a router plane in the making of them.

GeorgeC 04-12-2019 09:56 AM

OK, that tells us about the tools that you have. What type of woodworking/projects do you build? Tell us something that will give us a knowledge of what type of tools you need.


George

sgcz75b 04-12-2019 10:06 AM

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I do not have a rabbit plane. As I said before, I was set on the LA Jack, but now thinking maybe a rabbit block plane?

Suggestions?


Try the Twin engine rabbit plane sold by E. Fudd.

woodnthings 04-12-2019 10:51 AM

Catch a rabbett plane ....
 
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Originally Posted by Rhaugle (Post 2049897)
Hi guys.. birthday is coming up in a couple months and im wondering which hand plane to put on my list. For a long time I was set on the veritas LA jack, but not sure anymore...

I currently have a 1950s Stanley no.4, a newer (cheap, plastic handle) no.5, a 1925-28 Stanley no.7 (still a rust bucket, bought at an auction and I need to clean still), an unknown maker sized between the Stanley 4 &5, and a Kobalt block plane.

I do not have a rabbit plane. As I said before, I was set on the LA Jack, but now thinking maybe a rabbit block plane?

Suggestions?


I would recommend almost any one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=rabbett+p...f=nb_sb_noss_2


I own several of those listed here, the Stanley 78, a bull nose or shoulder plane, even the router plane with a 1/2" blade. You build your collection based on basic types for the basic operations, then branch out into different sizes. I got some nice vintage planes off Ebay, a few others I bought new. It made no difference in performance.



https://www.woodworkingtalk.com/atta...e-100_2739.jpg

https://www.woodworkingtalk.com/atta...e-100_2740.jpg

gmercer_48083 04-12-2019 11:38 AM

Woodnthings, That's quite a collection!

woodnthings 04-12-2019 12:18 PM

Yup, and not used that often any longer ....
 
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Originally Posted by gmercer_48083 (Post 2049957)
Woodnthings, That's quite a collection!


And I have a few more in stages of restoration that aren't up there yet. Better get off the recliner and get with it! :wink:

gj13us 04-12-2019 12:35 PM

Go for the rabbet plane. What you have already is plenty enough for regular planing.

35015 04-12-2019 06:49 PM

Hi Rhaugle,

I'm with George...what style of woodworking do you enjoy...

As to "what plane" I can't even recommend a "rabbet" since there are several type that may fit your needs better than other...

I have a 12" Carriage Plane that does a fantastic job of rabbet work on timber frames...but my Vertias and block Rabbet are also great tools...It all depends on what you do the most of?

Good Luck either way and post pictures when you have time of what you get and have in your collection...

j

Rhaugle 04-13-2019 12:26 AM

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My current collection... Left to right... Stanley no 7, Stanley no 5, mystery plane (can't find a single marking), Stanley no 4, Kobalt block plane

35015 04-13-2019 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhaugle (Post 2050059)
My current collection... Left to right... Stanley no 7, Stanley no 5, mystery plane (can't find a single marking), Stanley no 4, Kobalt block plane

Very good start...

My "gut" (without know your specific interests in woodworking) is a Shouldered Rabbeting Plane...

My reasoning is a Rabbeting Block Plane is a close second and great plane to have in general, however it won't do what a Should version can do...but...even though larger, a Should Plane can do what the Block can't...

The large Carriage Rabbeting Plane is (most likely?) outside the context of any work you would do unless getting into Timber Framing and/or large folk style furniture forms like heavy Harvest/Farm Tables, Kaas/Armoire, Panel Chair, etc...

Good Luck,

j

Rhaugle 04-13-2019 10:14 AM

I eventually want to get into more traditional joints... Bread boards take ends, through mortices/ tenons and that stuff.

Rhaugle 04-13-2019 10:21 AM

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OK, that tells us about the tools that you have. What type of woodworking/projects do you build? Tell us something that will give us a knowledge of what type of tools you need.


George

Post above has my goals with woodworking.. getting into more traditional joints...

My question now... Looking at the no7, it looks pretty rough. If I can't get it cleaned up to a usable condition, do I need to stick with the LA Jack? I was starting to lean towards the rabbet block until I looked at the no 7 again...

JohnTC 04-13-2019 01:54 PM

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Do you have any other pictures of the "mystery" plane from the side and back as well as the plane disassembled showing the tops and bottoms of the parts? Someone may be able to tell you at least the maker of not the brand.



Have you considered buying the cutters/irons and making your own planes out of wood? Watched some videos and came up with a hybrid of various ideas to make a router plane. Used some cheap wood to make a quick one as a proof of concept and it works really well. Though I would make a couple of changes, it's worked so well, I haven't needed to make the final one.

Rhaugle 04-13-2019 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnTC (Post 2050125)
Do you have any other pictures of the "mystery" plane from the side and back as well as the plane disassembled showing the tops and bottoms of the parts? Someone may be able to tell you at least the maker of not the brand.



Have you considered buying the cutters/irons and making your own planes out of wood? Watched some videos and came up with a hybrid of various ideas to make a router plane. Used some cheap wood to make a quick one as a proof of concept and it works really well. Though I would make a couple of changes, it's worked so well, I haven't needed to make the final one.

I have watched a Paul sellers vid on making a router plane, looks pretty straight forward, which is why I'm not worried about one of them right now.

I will take more pictures of my mystery plane once I get it cleaned up.

JohnTC 04-13-2019 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhaugle (Post 2050141)
I have watched a Paul sellers vid on making a router plane, looks pretty straight forward, which is why I'm not worried about one of them right now.

I will take more pictures of my mystery plane once I get it cleaned up.

I love Paul Seller's videos, but the poor man's router plane was not a good one. Tried that one first a couple of times and went back to youtube to research some more. His poor man's rebate plane is good though.

Red5hft 04-13-2019 10:56 PM

If you like to tinker...
 
If the tools are as much, or more fun than the projects, how about a Stanley 45 or 55 or clone? That will keep you busy and may cover some of you needs.

Rhaugle 04-13-2019 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay C. White Cloud (Post 2050083)
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Originally Posted by Rhaugle (Post 2050059)
My current collection... Left to right... Stanley no 7, Stanley no 5, mystery plane (can't find a single marking), Stanley no 4, Kobalt block plane

Very good start...

My "gut" (without know your specific interests in woodworking) is a Shouldered Rabbeting Plane...

My reasoning is a Rabbeting Block Plane is a close second and great plane to have in general, however it won't do what a Should version can do...but...even though larger, a Should Plane can do what the Block can't...

The large Carriage Rabbeting Plane is (most likely?) outside the context of any work you would do unless getting into Timber Framing and/or large folk style furniture forms like heavy Harvest/Farm Tables, Kaas/Armoire, Panel Chair, etc...

Good Luck,

j


This is what I was thinking of getting

https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/...cker?node=4072


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