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More focused "which plane to get"

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I had posted a couple weeks ago about "which plane to get" with many suggestions.. I have decided to start with a new block plane... Im stuck deciding between 2 Lie neilsens... the 60 1/2 block or the 60 1/2 rabbet block. I would think the Rabbet would be "that much better" since it has the rabbet blade. However, Not an adjustable mouth.

Thoughts? I need to replace my Kobalt block so I know im getting one of these two, and not a dedicated shoulder plane (for now)
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Since you have the Kobalt, I'd say get the rabbet. What is the issue you are having with the Kobalt?

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Since you have the Kobalt, I'd say get the rabbet. What is the issue you are having with the Kobalt?
The cap isn't staying secure, and it's not flat. The cap has a rotational cam style lever that I always seem to undo just by using it.. I bought it for one door (screen door) project so I wasn't too worried about it's accuracy at that time since it was about $15.
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Don't consider the rabbet block plane as a standard block plane + rabbet feature in a manner that you're getting the same tool plus something extra.

Removing, sharpening, re-inserting the blade of the rabbet plane is more difficult than the standard version. Not to mention, it must be handled with care because you are far more likely to cut yourself on the exposed edges. It's a specialty tool that is great at what it does, the rare times that you actually need it.

For general purpose use, the 60 1/2 is what you want.

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Bringing this topic back up... I found a video on youtube of someone who has the same kobalt plane. He did some work on it and it looks like a pretty good performer. Mainly, cleaning up the rough machine finish and flattening the sole. I think I may give this a shot and see how it works. I guess If i can get a $15 block plane working well, I can put money towards a different one..

So the the question becomes..... drum roll.... a shoulder plane, or a router plane? I think I am leaning towards a router plane, I think it can be used in more instances. Or would it be worth it to get a much, much nicer block plane?
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Bringing this topic back up... I found a video on youtube of someone who has the same kobalt plane. He did some work on it and it looks like a pretty good performer. Mainly, cleaning up the rough machine finish and flattening the sole. I think I may give this a shot and see how it works. I guess If i can get a $15 block plane working well, I can put money towards a different one..

So the the question becomes..... drum roll.... a shoulder plane, or a router plane? I think I am leaning towards a router plane, because I think it can do much of what a shoulder plane can do, and more.
I agree. Can clean up shoulders pretty well with a router plane and do much more.

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I agree. Can clean up shoulders pretty well with a router plane and do much more.

edited that post a bit... would you say a router plane over a much nicer block plane upgrade?
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edited that post a bit... would you say a router plane over a much nicer block plane upgrade?
If you can figure out the lever on your block plane, definitely. The Kobalt should perform fine once tuned. I have a bunch of block planes I've gotten from garage sales and flea markets. The 60 1/2 design is my favorite and all those that emulate it such as the Kobalt do a fine job.

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If you can figure out the lever on your block plane, definitely. The Kobalt should perform fine once tuned. I have a bunch of block planes I've gotten from garage sales and flea markets. The 60 1/2 design is my favorite and all those that emulate it such as the Kobalt do a fine job.
I meant figure out what was wrong with it. Not that you can't figure out how to use it. lol

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Rhaugle, If you follow this video...you will get the same result on your Kobalt block plane.
https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking...t_block_plane/

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Rhaugle, If you follow this video...you will get the same result on your Kobalt block plane.
https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking...t_block_plane/

The exact video I found! Have you done this? with this plane?
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The exact video I found! Have you done this? with this plane?


No, I don't own this model plane....But after having tuned many hand planes, and seeing how the Kobalt block plane is assembled in this video, I can see his attention to the details of removing all the burrs will eliminate the manufacturing defects that make this an unusable plane out of the package. By following each and every part of this video "Will make the Kobalt block plane a joy to use". All those burrs on the stamped parts amplify the problems with adjusting everything on the plane. Fettling your block plane (or any Plane) to this extent is well worth the time and effort spent doing it.

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