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post #1 of 58 Old 12-27-2011, 02:57 PM Thread Starter
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Making Raised Panels - Hand Tools

Raised panels are pretty easy to build, right? Size panel, head to the shaper or router table...

Or, pull out the bench hook, marking gauge, rabbit plane, and block plane... You can't cut a ogee panel with a flat plane obviously, but you can make these...

I sure do enjoy using hand tools!...

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Yes, thanks for taking the time to post this.
These are the sort of things, which get mentally filed away and which reveal themselves as solutions somewhere down the road.
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That is cool, did you cut the groove in the rails and stiles with a plane too?
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That is cool, did you cut the groove in the rails and stiles with a plane too?
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That's a different project but same method.

The only power tool I used was a TS to rip the oak down... I need to find a good Diston rip saw...

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Legs were carved with a draw knife then spoke shave and chisels. I still have more detail work to do on them.

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Geez. That's awesome Tom. I prefer to use power tools just because they're a helluva lot easier, but I get a lot more satisfaction from the pieces I create with hand tools.

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Wow, that's great work Tom. You are almost there.










(Johnray's level, sorry, I couldn't help myself )


Seriously though, wicked cool looking project and equally cool technique.
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Geez. That's awesome Tom. I prefer to use power tools just because they're a helluva lot easier, but I get a lot more satisfaction from the pieces I create with hand tools.
Some things are undeniably faster by power tool. Ripping for instance or making 50 cabinet doors... BUT for a small shop like mine with no mass production I find there are also a lot of things far easier and quicker by hand.

How long does it take you to install a dado blade, confirm the stack width, set the height, run a test piece...

I bet its more time than it takes me to pick up the # 45, the correct iron and start cutting. Sure you'll beat me to the finish of say 4 pieces but if I only need 2!... Then there is the reset time on the TS to go back to a different function like cross cutting. I'll have my 45 miter on the shooting board for trimming before you start cutting... And it snow balls with the back and forth resetting power tools for a different function. If one tool does one job and does it well it's more efficient.

Besides, I hate the sound of power tools. I can't hear Metalica when they are on!

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Wow, that's great work Tom. You are almost there.

(Johnray's level, sorry, I couldn't help myself )


Seriously though, wicked cool looking project and equally cool technique.
I still don't have a sandpaper rack :(

Thanks man!

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Yep

<img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34346"/>

That's a different project but same method.

The only power tool I used was a TS to rip the oak down... I need to find a good Diston rip saw...

<img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34347"/>

Legs were carved with a draw knife then spoke shave and chisels. I still have more detail work to do on them.

~tom. ...GEAUX TIGERS!... ...GEAUX SAINTS!......
I just finished 120' of baseboard for our house. 240' of ripping with a hand saw. I started with my Diston and finished with a Pennsylvania that I had just sharpened.

1 1/2" per stroke, it went amazingly fast.
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I just finished 120' of baseboard for our house. 240' of ripping with a hand saw. I started with my Diston and finished with a Pennsylvania that I had just sharpened.

1 1/2" per stroke, it went amazingly fast.
Are you trying to sell it to me? LOL

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Well, I'm glad I didn't have to follow through with my threat. (I've never used photoshop) Nice job on those panels.

Yup, for me to put in a dado, there better be lots of use for it.

But...Metallica? Don't you guys have jazz down there?

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Well, I'm glad I didn't have to follow through with my threat. (I've never used photoshop) Nice job on those panels.

Yup, for me to put in a dado, there better be lots of use for it.

But...Metallica? Don't you guys have jazz down there?

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haha, I had no idea what you were talking about with the build thread / hello kitty thing earlier... Now I get it!

It's not really a build thread for the mini hutch. But I guess I'll post a finished pic once it's done.

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Are you trying to sell it to me? LOL

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Nah! Just sayin when you're retired ya have more time than money. I'm to cheap to buy power tools!

Nice job on the panels. I built a vanity for the bathroom last year. I stuck a piece of oak plywood where the raised panel will go when I run low on projects.
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Some things are undeniably faster by power tool. Ripping for instance or making 50 cabinet doors... BUT for a small shop like mine with no mass production I find there are also a lot of things far easier and quicker by hand.

How long does it take you to install a dado blade, confirm the stack width, set the height, run a test piece...

I bet its more time than it takes me to pick up the # 45, the correct iron and start cutting. Sure you'll beat me to the finish of say 4 pieces but if I only need 2!... Then there is the reset time on the TS to go back to a different function like cross cutting. I'll have my 45 miter on the shooting board for trimming before you start cutting... And it snow balls with the back and forth resetting power tools for a different function. If one tool does one job and does it well it's more efficient.

Besides, I hate the sound of power tools. I can't hear Metalica when they are on!
Don't confuse "easier" with "quicker". For me, easier, in this context, means done right the first time because most of the human element has been taken out of it.

I'm blown away by you guys who do the hand work and I've picked up a few hand planes and have started using them here and there. I get a lot more pride and satisfaction from the pieces that I "labored" over as opposed to the ones through the planer and router table.

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YAAY for hand tools. I learned with hand tools because I couldn't afford powered ones. Some procedures are faster, some are not. Some take both hand and power. Doing it for a living does require a "git-r-done" way of working...as time is money.

My hands aren't what they used to be after all the years of working with them. I do yak quite a bit about learning joinery, and traditional woodworking. I would hate to think that the art of hand work a dieing craft. Fortunately there are those that show it and keep it alive.

Your panels look very good...nice work. Just a tip on good handsaws. I find most of my hand tools at flea markets and garage sales. You have to know what to look for. Besides, you'll save a bunch of money. Some of the old stuff isn't made anymore. Just to add a bit of "I wonder if it could be true" to buying second hand tools, is the energy that may come with them. When I use one of them, I wonder who used them in the past, and if there is some gift of soul being transferred to my hands.

Just a short story about one of my garage sales experience. I found one for some old recording equipment. At the time I was looking for a reel to reel tape deck. I have a large collection of tapes I wanted to transfer to CD's, and my deck didn't work, and couldn't find anyone to fix it.

Anyway, I arrived at a residential 2 car garage and the seller was a woman in her 50's, selling all her deceased grandfathers stuff (it was his house). Lo and behold, besides a lot of old tape decks and amplifiers on some tables, there was some woodworking tools. Oh yeah, I hit another jackpot.

Well, there wasn't much left in power tools, as most of that was already sold. But, for hand tools, there were several large tool boxes with all kinds of stuff. I opened a few, and got this weird feeling that I was invading his personal life. It was like a no no to buy any of them. When I closed the boxes up, it was like giving him peace.

I did wind up buying a Teac A-6010.






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Short handsaw story.......

Years ago some dipstick contractor calls me for a "rush job" on a set of main stairs.Get to job,minor problem....no power?He wanders off for two days trying to find a generator?He got back and I was waiting with my hand out to be PAID.Job done....to include ripping all the oak treads with a handsaw,handrails,brace N bit,handnails,yadayada.

Nice job on panels!BW

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C-man, I've been looking at all of the flea markets and antique shops. The saws are pretty popular home & shop decor so they are really tough to find. Dang collectors.

And I know what ya mean about a tools soul or previous life... It does make ya wonder!


That's pretty cool, BW! good stuff

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http://www.popularwoodworking.com/tag/tashio-odate

In this article, Toshio Odate writes about pantheism, and how a piece of a persons soul remains with his/her worldly goods.

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I just finished 120' of baseboard for our house. 240' of ripping with a hand saw. I started with my Diston and finished with a Pennsylvania that I had just sharpened.

1 1/2" per stroke, it went amazingly fast.
That's commitment. That or masochism ;-)
I love using hand tools for final fitting and finishing, because it works better for me. But for ripping? No contest
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Just as soon show a lil more cool (I think) hand tool stuff from this same build.

Hand cut molding! I first jointed the board edge with a No 7. Then using a Stanly 45 with an ogee iron I cut the profile on the board edge little by little retracting the fence every couple of passes. Did this to both sides of the board then ripped free and cleaned up the square edges with a Stanley low angle block mounted upside down in my vise.

Here ya go:

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