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Unless you never allow anyone else in your shop you need two sets of chisels, a cheap set out in the open that others can use to open paint cans, scrape gaskets, or what ever else they look to be handy for, and a good set hidden away that only you know about.
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Unless you never allow anyone else in your shop you need two sets of chisels, a cheap set out in the open that others can use to open paint cans, scrape gaskets, or what ever else they look to be handy for, and a good set hidden away that only you know about.
Your not supposed to use them as gasket scrapers?!

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I have many cheap cheap chisels and I follow the sharpening method that this video highlights. I will say all of me chisels are sharper than the razor I shave with after sharpening using this method.


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For anyone interested I have posted a bit on the history of the Scarry Sharp System, worth the read:

http://sawdustmaking.com/Chisels/scarysharp.html
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I normally have one chisel or another that needs sharpening anyway. I normally use one of those to scrape gaskets. It doesn't make it that much duller.
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How to Sharpen Chisels Quickly and Cheaply!

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I have used a set sold by Aldi's now for about 3 years. They were recommended by Paul Sellers as a good starter set. They had to be flattened and honed to a keen edge and they are my favorite bench chisels. They hold an edge very well and I use them on almost every project I make.
For those of you that want to sharpen chisels and plane irons on a budget, I created an inexpensive way to easily achieve a very sharp edge! My guide is a downloadable pdf file. I show you how using a set of chisels sold by Aldi...yes the grocer, in this guide.Garys Sharpen Chisels and Plane Blades Easily and Cheaply.pdf
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For those of you that want to sharpen chisels and plane irons on a budget, I created an inexpensive way to easily achieve a very sharp edge! My guide is a downloadable pdf file. I show you how using a set of chisels sold by Aldi...yes the grocer, in this guide.Attachment 331194
Very cool, Gary. Thanks for sharing!
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I have a set of three DMT diamond "stones", each 6" long. I prefer the larger ones, but I got by with the 6" stones for years. (This is the set.) You could also go with the DMT fine/extra-fine DuoSharp stone, which seems to be about $75 with the holder, and use sandpaper if you need to do some really coarse grinding. That will be cheaper in the short run, since you're unlikely to need to do any coarse work right away, and is likely what I would do if I were starting over with my current knowledge.

Learning to sharpen without a honing guide takes some practice, but it's not actually all that hard. I have an Eclipse-style guide, but I almost never use it unless I need to do a lot of grinding to reshape an edge.

I've got one of the older Wood River chisel sets, and it's fine. I wish they held their edge longer, but that's partly because I'm using a lower bevel angle than is standard. (The reasoning for that is, basically, I screwed up. I could re-grind them, but I'm used to it now.) I don't regret the purchase at all, since they've served me well for close to a decade.
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My chisels are old and I’ve never owned a fancy sharpening wheel. I’ve primarily sharpened my chisels with sandpaper layed on something dead flat. For whatever the reason, I seem to reach for my 1/2” chisel the most and a 1” chisel the least.
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If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it over?
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I got a pair of Marple chisels for Christmas. I haven't tried them out yet but ratings on them are favorable. The one thing that I want to get to compliment them is the sandpaper sharpening system from Rockler. I have my dad's old Craftsman chisels as well that need to be refaced.

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What is y'alls take on the sharpening jigs? I mean there is a large variance from The cheap 10 dollar one, and the 65 dollar one ....
My take is "don't bother". I can't tell you how much time I spent trying to figure out which jig to use, and hating the one or two I bought. Then I saw a demo by Paul Sellers, and said "Ok, let's try freehand." My tools get better every time I sharpen them, and I don't have to worry about setting up jig each time.

The vast majority of my sharpening is done with a single two-sided DMT stone (red and green, or fine and extra fine), and a strop. I use their blue (coarse) stone if I have a particularly bad edge, and sandpaper or a grinder if I need something coarser than that.

Seriously... you can get sucked into overthinking this really easily. Start with a minimum of supplies and see what you actually need to add.
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There was a chisel review in Fine Woodworking magazine a few years ago. Stanley No. 60 chisels were rated near the top in edge retention. I have used them for years in my shop for furniture work and found them to be very good. They just look like crap and I prefer wood handles over plastic.
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There was a chisel review in Fine Woodworking magazine a few years ago. Stanley No. 60 chisels were rated near the top in edge retention. I have used them for years in my shop for furniture work and found them to be very good. They just look like crap and I prefer wood handles over plastic.
I like the appearance of wood handles too however functionally the plastic handles are much better. I've driven a chisel through a wooden handle but I've never damaged a plastic handle even using a hammer. The wood handles pretty much restrict you to using a wooden mallet.
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Polyurethane-faced carver's mallets stick to wood gouge and chisel handles.
My adze blades are $100 each, most crooked knife blades run in the $40 - $60 range each.
The handles are entirely up to you.
The blades all have sweeps = they are all curved to some degree. Flat abrasives aren't much use to me.

I sharpen everything freehand. Just a skill to be learned.
So is using tennis balls as mandrels for the adze blases.
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I have used a set sold by Aldi's ... my favorite bench chisels...
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... I often find vintage chisels at estate sales. I have a soft spot for vintage.

I use sandpaper, a $10 guide, and a piece of granite for sharpening.
I'd used a motley collection of Craftsman, Buck Bros, others for years, then bought the Aldi set. Once flattened and sharpened they became my favorite bench chisels. I also have picked up several old Swan, Two Cherries and Stanley chisels which after restoration are really good tools.

My sharpening system is also sandpaper, a relatively inexpensive guide and a glass plate -- gives a "scary sharp" edge.
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I thought I knew what yall were talking about when someone mentioned expensive high end chisels. Then Infinity tools sent me a copy of the magazine Japan Woodworker and I realized my idea of an expensive chisel was way off the mark. They have single chisels for $700.00, sets of 10 for $4085.00 and many other (to me) outrageously priced hand tools. I guess theres a breed of yuppie woodworker Ive yet to meet out there. They probably worked for companies like Enron and Fannie Mae.

As for sharpening I dont use any jigs for the correct angle and I use my dads old 3 way 4"x10" arkansas stones with a piece of leather stretched tight on a piece of wood for a final polish. When I was a kid and I first started sharpening the knives my dad gave me I couldnt put an edge on them for nothing. After watching my dad and attempting to put into practice the tips he told me I learned how to sharpen a knife. Its all angle, repetition and the correct stone. Chisels are pretty much the same or at least thats how I see it and mine work pretty good for me. No one has the be all and end all correct way to sharpen. If it works for you then stick with it. Like daddy said, "If it aint broke dont fix it".
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I bought a set of Marple chisels a long time ago and they are good but I wish they had wood handles.

https://www.amazon.com/Marples-M444-...38585250&psc=1

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It's not so much the chisel, but the ability to sharpen that matters. So long as you develop the skills to sharpen effectively and efficiently, you can bring a cheap chisel up to sharp and use it just fine. It might not last as long as an expensive chisel, but once sharp, resharpening takes a couple of seconds. The really expensive stuff seems aimed more at the "status" woodworkers than the actual craftsmen. They want to feel like they have the best, when all they really did was overpay. Whatever, their money, I guess.
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