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Baily no7 set up

Hi all,
Finally got my no.7 cleaned up, and sharpened.. but having issues setting g it all up now.

I have it set bevel down, then chip breaker on top, but I can't retract the blade into the mouth. The retract screw is fully forward and the blade is still out.
The chip breaker is not registering in the "depth tab" (don't know the right word) so I'm guessing that's my issue. Bit what do I need to change?

I'm worried this is the wrong chip breaker... It has writing on it, but it is under the hold down screw, and upside down
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So I noticed this massive gap between the blade/breaker and the frog.. so my blade and breaker are very bent.. time to get new ones?
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Make sure the chip breaker is less than 1/8" from the cutting edge of the iron/blade. This should allow it to retract all of the way. If not, the chip breaker's bend might need to be increased, but you can skip this until finishing the following steps. Make sure the frog is not too far back. This can cause a gap like shown. You can straighten the iron/blade by gently securing it in a vice and applying gently pressure to straighten it. If it won't retract properly, at this point you can secure the bottom of the chip breaker gently in a vice and apply pressure to increase the bend to where it should be and reattach it to the iron/chip breaker to within 1/8" of the cutting edge.

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Make sure the chip breaker is less than 1/8" from the cutting edge of the iron/blade. This should allow it to retract all of the way. If not, the chip breaker's bend might need to be increased, but you can skip this until finishing the following steps. Make sure the frog is not too far back. This can cause a gap like shown. You can straighten the iron/blade by gently securing it in a vice and applying gently pressure to straighten it. If it won't retract properly, at this point you can secure the bottom of the chip breaker gently in a vice and apply pressure to increase the bend to where it should be and reattach it to the iron/chip breaker to within 1/8" of the cutting edge.
It is positioned a bit less than an 8th from the blade tip, and meets the blade just fine there.. I knew they were a little bent even assembling because I had to switch them together just to get the screw started. The frog see to be pretty far forward too.. I think this set is just to far gone sadly...

So, I'm looking at a veritas set.. or should I try to keep it Stanley and fine something on eBay?
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I think this set is just to far gone sadly...

So, I'm looking at a veritas set.. or should I try to keep it Stanley and fine something on eBay?
Have had to straighten, bend, and adjust these on a few planes to get them to work properly. I think you are making excuses to get a new iron and chip breaker. lol. Been there too, so I'll go with it. Those are toast. The worst I've ever seen. You must head to Ebay, Hock, Lee Valley, etc today to get that thing working properly.
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I think this set is just to far gone sadly...

So, I'm looking at a veritas set.. or should I try to keep it Stanley and fine something on eBay?
Have had to straighten, bend, and adjust these on a few planes to get them to work properly. I think you are making excuses to get a new iron and chip breaker. lol. Been there too, so I'll go with it. Those are toast. The worst I've ever seen. You must head to Ebay, Hock, Lee Valley, etc today to get that thing working properly. <img src="http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/images/WoodworkingTalk_2016/smilies/tango_face_grin.png" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" />
Lol. Well, you think I could straighten them? Throw the. In a vice and see I guess
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Lol. Well, you think I could straighten them? Throw the. In a vice and see I guess
You could, but those premium irons and chip breakers are really nice. I don't blame you for wanting a new set.
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I would try to bow them back. Looks to me like something heavy may have fallen onto the plane to cause the bow in both iron and chip breaker. Once you get it straightened, make sure you have no light showing between the chip breaker and the iron for shavings to catch on.

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