shivi

Hello.

I'm working out a way to build the kitchen of my new Irish Pub and Eatery which is in the basement of a very old building. As far as I can tell, the "kitchen" area doesn't have a second floor, but the restaurant area does have two floors above it. I'll have to verify the lack of an upper floor over the kitchen. Anyway, I plan on building a double oven in the kitchen, and will be cooking everything in it that I would use a regular oven for normally. I currently don't see an issue with building the ovens in the kitchen, if the ceiling is open above that part of the building.

The question I have, is for the restaurant area... I plan to build a "double-scale" model of a clay oven, and use it as a fireplace for the bar/restaurant. I want it to not only provide heat from the mouth of the oven, but also to radiate heat from the sides - keeping heat in this one is not an issue - and keep my winter heating bills reasonable... the place is like 8000 sq ft total, so every little bit helps. I also have the issue of a sidewalk on the side of the building where I plan to build the oven, and two floors above mine, through which I would have to run the exhaust pipe through the roof.

Could I just run the exhaust through the wall to the kitchen, and run it with the cooking oven exhaust pipes?

How do I build my "fireplace" in a way that instead of holding heat, it gives off the maximum amount of heat in a full 360 degree radius? The whole building is stone, and it has 2' thick walls, so the stones behind the oven should reflect the heat back towards the open room.

I'll be building a brick grill to match the ovens for burgers and other grillable foods, steaks, etc., so if anyone has plans for a gas-fired - or better yet, wood-fired - stone grill, that would be awesome.

Thank you

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Try www.diychat.com the sister site for these issues. Codes will vary greatly form country to country on this issue. bill

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wicker

hello.

Welcome to the forum... You have lots of stuff going on here.

The question I have, is for the restaurant area... I plan to build a "double-scale" model of a clay oven, and use it as a fireplace for the bar/restaurant. I want it to not only provide heat from the mouth of the oven, but also to radiate heat from the sides - keeping heat in this one is not an issue - and keep my winter heating bills reasonable... the place is like 8000 sq ft total, so every little bit helps.
> this is do-able

I also have the issue of a sidewalk on the side of the building where I plan to build the oven, and two floors above mine, through which I would have to run the exhaust pipe through the roof.
> You lost me here what are you asking?

Could I just run the exhaust through the wall to the kitchen, and run it with the cooking oven exhaust pipes?
>Do you mean the exhaust from the "fire place oven"? are they going to be right above each other along the same wall?

How do I build my "fireplace" in a way that instead of holding heat, it gives off the maximum amount of heat in a full 360 degree radius? The whole building is stone, and it has 2' thick walls, so the stones behind the oven should reflect the heat back towards the open room.
> an uninsulated oven will act similar to a wood stove heater and the whole dome would radiate heat.

NKYDarrell

When cooking in that type of oven, I would think that you want the heat to be retained for even cooking. You don't want the temperature to be fluctuating too much when you are trying to cook food.

I don't know what kind of building/fire codes you have to abide by across the pond but you'd probably be better off finding someone knowledgeable in your area.

Find someone who builds these types of ovens and see if the heating and cooking is possible from the same source. With modern built fireplaces here, there is sometimes an air chamber behind the fireplace where heat radiates and warms up the air. Then a fan blows that heat into the room. I don't know if something similar is possible with your type of oven.

Find out what is possible then work on venting it. It is real hard to comment on best way for your problem without knowing codes again or the building layout. When you say a sidewalk on the building, do you mean like a fire escape?

As far as tying in with an exhaust from another source, you'd want to talk to someone knowledgeable of local fire codes.