Woodworking Talk Logo
    Forum     Photos     DIY Forum     Contact Us  
Designs | Joinery | Trim Carpentry | Woodturning | Wood Finishes | Tools| Project Showcase
Go Back   Woodworking Talk - Woodworkers Forum > Forestry Talk > Forestry & Milling
american vs. chinese elm american vs. chinese elm
Register Woodworking Photos FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-05-2009, 02:47 PM   #1
greg4269ub
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 40
View greg4269ub's Photo Album My Photos

Old Gallery
Default american vs. chinese elm

my father has a property full of what we have known as chinese elm. the only difference i can decipher between the american and chinese elm is the size of the leaves. there are 6 trees that he needs removed from his property they range from 12 to 18 in dia. i was planning on praticing on those trees with my new saw when it is delivered. any sugestions on this elm type and how to mill em so i can use the lumber for some furniture project?
greg4269ub is offline   Reply With Quote
Join Contractor Talk

Join the #1 Woodworking Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

Do you love woodworking? Are you looking to connect with other woodworkers? If so we invite you to join our community and see what it has to offer. Our site is specifically designed for you and it's the leading place for woodworkers to meet online. No matter what your skill level you'll find that WoodworkingTalk.com is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally free!

Join WoodworkingTalk.com - Click Here JOIN FOR FREE

Also view our DIY Forum here

Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. WoodworkingTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any woodworking or home improvement task!
Old 09-05-2009, 03:06 PM   #2
Daren
Moderator
 
Daren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: central Illinois
Posts: 3,438
View Daren's Photo Album My Photos

Old Gallery
Send a message via Skype™ to Daren
Default

Milling Chinese elm is easy, a mix of 4/4-a little 6/4 and some 8/4. It's pretty wood really. It is a little more difficult to dry. It likes to move (cup, twist) so it should be weighed down in the stack. And even though it has interlocking grain like all the elms it will split more readily than the others drying also. But heck yes, they will make great logs to practice on. Truth be told that is the first hardwood I milled when I got mine because they are so available as urban logs. There were many neat woodworking projects that came out of those first few logs.
__________________


http://nelsonwoodworks.biz/ ...Urban logging/tool sharpening

Daren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2009, 04:34 PM   #3
knotscott
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 1,188
View knotscott's Photo Album My Photos

Old Gallery
Thumbs up

Greg - I've completed two projects from what I was told is "red elm", which I suspect is the same as Chinese elm but I'm not certain. It is very pretty stuff, but does like to move some. I let it acclimate well, then milled it slightly over sized, then let it acclimate for another day or two before going to final dimensions. This seems to cut down on the movement later.





Good luck!
knotscott is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2009, 05:43 PM   #4
greg4269ub
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 40
View greg4269ub's Photo Album My Photos

Old Gallery
Smile

sweet it looks awesome!! i am looking forward to building somthing from the trees i used to clime as a kid. one of the trees i plan on cutting down used to hold up one side of my childhood tree fort. i can't wait til the lumber is dry... oh what fun.
greg4269ub is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2009, 08:12 PM   #5
TexasTimbers
Moderator
 
TexasTimbers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,274
View TexasTimbers's Photo Album My Photos

Old Gallery
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by greg4269ub View Post
. . . . one of the trees i plan on cutting down used to hold up one side of my childhood tree fort . . . .
Make sure to have plenty of extra blades on hand when you mill it.

I cut up a sycamore right before dark last night that had barbed wire hanging out of it in several places. I put on an old blade, sawed through the center of the tree, and wire, very slowly, and quartered it. I cut it all up in 5/4 instead of 4/4 since I knew the lumber would be *very* wavy. I actually went through 3 of my old blades before I got through.

Sometimes you want the lumber bad enough, you'll cut through the metal to get it.
__________________
.


.

Dovetail Spline Jig
Flame Box Elder
TexasTimbers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2009, 12:44 PM   #6
Julian the woodnut
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Park Forest, Il
Posts: 465
View Julian the woodnut's Photo Album My Photos

Old Gallery
Default

I had an American elm milled last fall and there was two eyehooks 8" in from the outside of it. It seems that about 30-50 years ago there was a clothesline strung up to it and the tree just grew right around them. I've finished a few small projects with the elm, and am in the process of building a new computer desk out of it. The wood finished beautifully. I used amber shellac followed with beeswax and it came out really close in color to the white oak furniture I built using the same finish. As for the stability issues stated about elm, I have has nothing but great results with it so far. I have 18"-21" wide boards that have no end checking in them and almost no warping after slowly drying them in my solar kiln during the winter months.
Julian the woodnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2009, 08:47 PM   #7
dirtclod
dirtclod
 
dirtclod's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 325
View dirtclod's Photo Album My Photos

Old Gallery
Default

You'll find some pictures of Chinese elm about 3/4 the way down this page http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/elm.htm for comparison.

I'm still working on my elm id skills for our local natives. Sorting slippery bark (red) from American is giving me trouble. Winged and rock elm both border our area and there's some growing down the hill that i can't tell if it's winged or rock.

Last Spring we sawed a smallish crappy elm log a neighbor rescued from a ditch. It had layed at the mill site all winter. We put it on the mill then kicked around ideas as to what to saw it into. This guy was into bowl turning so I suggested halving the log, then cutting the pieces to lenght for large bowl blanks...he agreed. The character and colors it turned out were great. But I didn't have a camera on me so I told him he owed me some pictures. He agreed. Like all the other times I struck this bargain the pictures never showed up. Oh well...the ones that got away.

Last edited by dirtclod; 09-07-2009 at 08:49 PM. Reason: BTW - Knotscott that's a pretty piece.
dirtclod is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Hybrid Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode
Threaded Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
PSA: old American iron.... Butch Classifieds 2 09-28-2008 09:05 PM
American Elm Al Killian General Woodworking Discussion 12 09-16-2008 10:53 PM
It's As American As Apple Pie cabinetman Off Topic 2 11-24-2007 10:24 AM
Hello from an American in Spain ANTICUARIUM Introductions 3 10-01-2007 09:00 AM

Top of Page | View New Posts

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:25 PM.

Contact Us - Woodworking Forum - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0
Woodworking Talk © 2005 - 2009 The Building Network LLC
Our Network: Contractor Forum | DIY Forum | Painting Forum | Electrician Forum | Drywall Forum