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Old 07-01-2008, 03:43 PM   #21
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Just ask your wife if she wants to be married to a rocket man or a lazy Susan.

LOL! She would ALWAYS prefer the rocketman, (less she has to do haha) just doesn't like his style of furniture!
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Old 07-02-2008, 07:52 AM   #22
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Thanks for the pictures and measurements! Will post pics as soon as something is completed!

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Old 07-02-2008, 09:28 AM   #23
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Default UPDATED! Hazards fo PT lumber for Furniture

Finally had some time to do some research. I will NOT be using PT lumber for my outdoor furniture. Thank you everyone for bringing this to my attention. Would RED OAK work?


http://www.mass.gov/dep/toxics/ptwoodqa.htm

http://www.mass.gov/dep/toxics/ptwoodqa.htm#three


In February 2003, the United States Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) released the results of its studies examining decks and play sets made from pressure treated wood. Because arsenic is thought to be the most potent of the three substances in pressure treated wood, the CPSC risk assessment focused only on this substance. The research concluded that a young child who plays on pressure treated playground structures for an equivalent of 156 hours per year, or three times per week, over a five-year period has an increased risk of developing lung or bladder cancer in his or her lifetime.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in590994.shtml


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Old 07-02-2008, 11:43 AM   #24
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If you’re going to use oak go with White Oak. Its rot resistant and should last awhile if you seal it every few years.
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Finally had some time to do some research. I will NOT be using PT lumber for my outdoor furniture. Thank you everyone for bringing this to my attention. Would RED OAK work?


http://www.mass.gov/dep/toxics/ptwoodqa.htm

http://www.mass.gov/dep/toxics/ptwoodqa.htm#three


In February 2003, the United States Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) released the results of its studies examining decks and play sets made from pressure treated wood. Because arsenic is thought to be the most potent of the three substances in pressure treated wood, the CPSC risk assessment focused only on this substance. The research concluded that a young child who plays on pressure treated playground structures for an equivalent of 156 hours per year, or three times per week, over a five-year period has an increased risk of developing lung or bladder cancer in his or her lifetime.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in590994.shtml


It is my understanding that since that study, PT wood no longer contains arsenic.
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Hey EvilScotsman:

You probably would come out better all the way around with cypress for your projects, especially if you use ss screws. Good luck with your chairs. Litlhof.

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i would go with honey locust or black locust, hard as hell and more rot resistant than cedar
ive seen locust fence post in the ground for 20 years and only get a little punky for about 1/2"
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Default Pressure Treated OUT! In Cedar? Locust? Oak?

OK, after doing a little research I have decided NOT to use pressure treated wood for our outdoor furniture. I have has several recommendations, white oak, locust, cypress, etc. I KNOW this is NOT going to sit well with ANYONE here, BUT, what I think I am going to do is build one out of pine. I know it won't last long IF it make the season, but I am just starting out in this hobby, (don't even have my tools yet, HOPEFULLY this weekend) I don't want to spend a ton of money on lumber and then screw up the project and be out the cash. I will build it JUST FOR the experience. (Plus I could then use it as a template.

What would Cypress/White Oak/Locust cost? I can not find any prices anywhere w/o calling?
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Lumber prices change like gas prices!
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OK, after doing a little research I have decided NOT to use pressure treated wood for our outdoor furniture. I have has several recommendations, white oak, locust, cypress, etc. I KNOW this is NOT going to sit well with ANYONE here, BUT, what I think I am going to do is build one out of pine. I know it won't last long IF it make the season, but I am just starting out in this hobby, (don't even have my tools yet, HOPEFULLY this weekend) I don't want to spend a ton of money on lumber and then screw up the project and be out the cash. I will build it JUST FOR the experience. (Plus I could then use it as a template.
We're letting you slide this time because you're using it for a template...but next time you better watch it!

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What would Cypress/White Oak/Locust cost? I can not find any prices anywhere w/o calling?
Typically if you bought greenwhite oak you'll pay from .50 - 1.50/bf for 2x4's and 1x4's depending on who the supplier is. Air-dried will run 1.00-3.75. Locust may run 1 - 5.00. Best to check your local sawmill for prices/availability. I don't know about cypress - not much growing around here - suspect your area may be the same.

BTW - Locust heartwood is the part that has the high decay resistance.
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Pressure treated is ACQ not CCA now........ and I'd Hope by now most places are out of the CCA stuff....and only selling the ACQ
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Pressure treated is ACQ not CCA now........ and I'd Hope by now most places are out of the CCA stuff....and only selling the ACQ

MD, I'll bite, (Total Newbie) what is ACQ and CCA? What is the difference? I am assuming by your quote CCA is BAD!

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