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Miter on outside corners

Just finished looking at the chessboard. I have a question about cutting 45 degree angles for outside trim. I think that there was "rule of thumb" for this but not real sure about how to do it without the pieces being too long or too short. Mainly too short as, obviously, the long pieces can be trimmed. I marvel at those who get a good fit the first time. Thanks in advance.

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it can be calculated, but when I built mine I eyeballed it and trimmed the pieces (with the miter saw) until they fit just right. I didn't even pull wood out of the attic for the trim until after the playing surface was completed and let sit for a few days.


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Thanks for the quick reply and the great photos. I sold cabinets for a while and have seen some trim work where the miters look like the trim was one piece around the doors or windows.

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Mine aren't perfect, for sure, but considering the image resolution (on my computer screen anyway) of the pictures I posted are actually larger than the trim is in real life, I think I did o.k.

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Is the chess board veneered or solid wood? If it is solid, your nice miters may not look so good down the line! That would be a case of major cross graining, never a good idea.
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Is the chess board veneered or solid wood? If it is solid, your nice miters may not look so good down the line! That would be a case of major cross graining, never a good idea.


Could you please elaborate? I am in a similar situation with my first attempt at a table. Top is walnut ply and will be trimmed with 2" wide solid walnut, mitered with splines. Lengthwise the grain runs parallel to the grain on the table top but the short sides, perpendicular. Not ideal for design but I've seen it look ok when executed and finished nicely. Is this cross graining issue only a problem when the piece and edging are both solid? Or am I going to have problems too. Sorry for the thread jack Cowpokey, but maybe others will also be able to benefit from Larry's wisdom. Thanks.


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Sorry for the thread jack Cowpokey, but maybe others will also be able to benefit from Larry's wisdom. Thanks.


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It's not my thread, I only posted my experience for the OP. Carry on.

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Could you please elaborate? I am in a similar situation with my first attempt at a table. Top is walnut ply and will be trimmed with 2" wide solid walnut, mitered with splines. Lengthwise the grain runs parallel to the grain on the table top but the short sides, perpendicular. Not ideal for design but I've seen it look ok when executed and finished nicely. Is this cross graining issue only a problem when the piece and edging are both solid? Or am I going to have problems too. Sorry for the thread jack Cowpokey, but maybe others will also be able to benefit from Larry's wisdom. Thanks.


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Plywood does not move like solid wood, so you will be fine. Solid wood moves across the grain, but not with the grain ... as a rule.
The width will change, but not the length, in other words.

The answer to your question will only be as detailed and specific as the question is detailed and specfic. Good questions also include a sketch or a photo
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Is the chess board veneered or solid wood? If it is solid, your nice miters may not look so good down the line! That would be a case of major cross graining, never a good idea.
I do not understand what/why you are saying this.

Over the years I have made many, many outside mitered corners. None have ever changed look over time

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