ACP

I just glued up my first set of boards to make a panel for a toybox I am making. I used my table saw as the surface since it is nice and flat. I layed down overlapped layers of wax paper on the table saw top and then glued it and clamped it and left it overnight. I came back the next day and removed the clamps and there was heavy rust on all the glue lines under the wax paper! WTF? Also, one of the glue lines squeeze out turned an ugly black (TB II). I keep my TS very clean use Boeshield to protect the top. I sanded the rust off and reapplied the Boeshield and then tried waxing it for the first time. I tell you what, I wish I would have waxed it a long time ago, my boards slide slicker than snot now. Anyways, anyone else experience this or know the cause? I would like to continue to use it for future glue-ups but I won't if this continues. Thanks!

frankp

I've never seen TBII do that, especially in some place as dry as Sioux Falls. It's been a long time since I lived in SD, but I can't imagine it being so moist as to cause rust over night.

I've never bothered to put anything on top of my saw to protect it while using it as a table, but I'd recommend cardboard under the wax paper next time. Wax paper will allow water vapors to be trapped underneath in the right circumstances, and that may be the issue you're having.

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toolman Steve

you could make a glue up board 4'6" X 3'6" then seal it or cover it with laminate to make it nonstick
stand it against the wall when not in use. Just set it on the saw when you need it.

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ACP

It was pretty dry the day I glued, though it had been 70% + humidity the day before. I like the glue up board idea. I don't have too much room but that should store easily out of the way. Thank you.

firehawkmph

Ac,
Just get a half sheet of 3/4 plywood and toss it on a couple of plastic sawhorses. Lean it against the wall when you are done with it. The laminate sounds like a good idea, or maybe just a few coats of varnish.
Mike Hawkins

clarionflyer

I know what you were doing ACP, I tried it myself a while ago. I got the black marks, too. The wax paper just doesn't cut it.
The saw top is very flat, so if you're gonna glue on it (I occasionally do) - glue it up, and piece cardboard under the project to catch the drops.
I wouldn't leave the cardboard on too long, in a damp area. It can create rust, too.
What kind of wax did you use? (Just curious .)

ACP

I used Renaissance Wax. I don't know if it is any better or different than any others, I just saw it and grabbed some the other day on a whim and am happy so far.

Geoguy

I use my table saw as a flat glue-up surface all the time. I use some heavy paper I found in the Home Depot paint department to cover the saw top. It seems to work so far.

cabinetman

You could just use a half sheet of melamine, either 5/8" or 3/4". Dried glue just peels right off when touched with a chisel. And best of all, you'll have both sides you can use. Melamine is very flat and sturdy, and if you write on it, like cartoons or such, they will wipe right off.

I use bronze wool, or a synthetic microfiber to clean the saw table, and then use Topcote.

nelcatjar

Rule of thumb: Don't use a table saw as a workbench.

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woodnthings

Sometimes I can't find my workbench or my tablesaw.
But, in a pinch I used a 3/4 plywood cover with locating cleats to keep it from sliding around along the edges. As you can see it's gotten it's fair share of use. bill

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cabinetman

Man, that's disgusting looking, you oughta pitch it...it looks like one of mine.

woodnthings

Yeah, it's ugly, but sometimes ugly is better than pretty, if you know what I mean. Less trouble in the long run it seems, no upkeep, low maintenance and so forth.

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If you're not making dust, you're gathering it. After I reread my own posts, I agree with myself even more.

clarionflyer

I know, I know. Unfortunately, during multiple glue-ups, availability overrides logic sometimes .

ACP

I appreciate everyones input. I have a piece of 3/4 ply that I knew I had been saving for something. It is about to become my glue up surface on top of my saw. The saw just makes such a convenient work surface for me. My bench has a vise on top, my comp. miter saw attached and usually a lot of junk. I certainly won't let the saw get rusted again.

demax

I've struggled for years needing another table for layouts, and other jobs. Last month I bought for $20.00 a fold able workbench at Harbor Freight. It is very portable and sturdy.
It's become a tool that I use every day. I also bought another fold able workbench last week because I found it so handy.