jdt141

hey all -

i realize you probably get this question *all* the time, but I'm completely new here and what better way to introduce myself than bug all the seasoned users

so, i just moved into a new house and we've already started to build a list of projects. in the near future, we'd like to add a set of built in bookcases, and in the not too distant future there's a bathroom project in my future (framing involved).

i'm capable of doing these things, but i just need the right tools for the given task at hand. over the years i've managed to do a number of projects, but with tools that were available to me... now, out on my own, I need the right tools.

So, the question is, do I need a table saw, compound miter saw, or both? should i get one or the other first? both? your thoughts are appreciated!!!

Kenbo

First and foremost Jdt, welcome to the forum.
Secondly, if you can afford both, I would get both. With that being said, a good table saw can do the job of a compound miter saw and then some but a compound miter saw can not do the jobs of a table saw. There is considerably more setup involved in doing compound cuts on a table saw but it is possible. For framing, a miter saw is fast and accurate, whereas you wouldn't want to be cutting 2X4's on a table saw. You could do it, with a miter gauge and an auxillary fence but why would you if you had the miter saw. My suggestion.......get both. Purchase the highest quality that your budget will allow. (Don't bankrupt yourself over tools) If you can only afford one, I'd go with the table saw.
Ken

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clarionflyer

It'a amazing what you can make with a bargain:

tablesaw
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...Id=44532133464
miter saw
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=91995
drill

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clarionflyer

Oops. I hit the Post Button too quick!
But anyways, these are just some cheapy's that can start you off for a couple hundred bucks.

Streamwinner

If you have a craigslist for your area, start watching it. That's the best place for deals, especially if your just starting out and are not shopping for a specific brand.

woodnthings

Saws are like screwdrivers and hammers, there are different types for different tasks. Siimple as that. Tables saws "rip" wood better/more accurately than any other tool and while they cross cut small pieces fine, long lengths become unwieldy on the table saw.
Miter saws and compound sliding miter saws cut various angles and bevels on longer lengths easily, even the old radial arm saw excels at this if you can find a used one as I did for $150 in great shape.
So in some ways the length of the workpiece determines which tool is best for the task.
As was stated above the table saw can do it all and right now Grizzly has a great deal on it's GO1023 table saw. Everything you'd want in a table saw for less than $1000 shipped to your door. bill
Check this link: Deal Alert! Select Grizzly TS 25% Off (G1023SL $795)

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Never stand directly in front of a horse or tablesaw that's running!
If you're not making dust, you're gathering it. After I reread my own posts, I agree with myself even more.

talos4

10 years ago I was in the same boat as you. New old home and lot's of projects. I started with a $200 10" Bench top table saw that I bolted to a workbench and a $100 compound mitre saw. That combo built a new entertainment center that's 13' wide 6' tall that's still sitting in my living room, new cabinets in the laundry room, and several other projects

Many projects later I've upgraded the tools as my abilities grew.

Oh, and one other tool suggestion, a router with a table. I didn't have one for quite awhile, once I got it you dress up your projects nicely with a few simple passes.

Nate1778

Welcome. I agree with above, if you can afford both get both. Miter saws are irreplaceable when it comes to framing work. The also handle not so precise molding work, which will be a majority of the molding work in a home. May I suggest a router and bits, I would also suggest a small compressor and assortment of nail guns. My impact drivers are pretty valuable as well. Just start collecting and before you know it you'll have everything you need. I was in the same boat you were in 3 years ago. I did these book shelves with a Skill table saw, Hitachi 10" miter saw, Makita router, and a nail guns. Made a mess in the garage and was probably using tools in a manner that they were not meant to be used, but was satisfied with the end result. I too have upgraded to much nicer equiptment, but the principle is the same.








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Streamwinner

^ Nice work!

Gene Howe

A good circular saw and the right jigs will do anything a table saw will do and most things that a miter saw will do, and with the same accuracy. Not as fast, though.
Gene

Itchy Brother

I bought some things on Craigslist for about 1/2 the price.A JET 6" joiner fpr $300 almost new and got 3 extra sets of new blades.A delta mortise for $80.A Grizzley dust collector for $120.So there are good deals there.Harbor Freight is a good place for C clamps,bar clamps,acid brushes,Gloves.I bought a scroll saw there and it seems to work ok!I would forget it tho on the bigger tools,2nd quality there.Also pawn shops are full of some pretty good tools.A lot of workers are laid off and to make bills they are dumping their tools off at pawn shops.Just my opinion -Itchy

jdt141

thanks all! love the bookcases around the fireplace. that's *very* similar to what we'd like to do around our fireplace. i'll start saving some bucks. maybe i'll get lucky and santa will bring me something too :-)