cyclone lid - Woodworking Talk

Gary Beasley · 06-29-2009, 09:26 PM

I got a cyclone lid for a garbage can from Woodcraft the other day, finally got the parts to hook it in to the vacuum system. Put it on top of the only metal can I could find at HD and turned it on. Damn thing got sucked flat. They make em too cheap.
Where do you get cans strong enough to handle the psi? I can think of the blue drums and 55gal drums, but they need to be 20.5 inches max diameter to fit the lid but I have no idea what these drums really measure out to.

firehawkmph · 06-29-2009, 10:17 PM

Gary,
That sounds like an oversized beer can. I would either google metal garbage cans and see who sells the heavy duty ones, or maybe try a good full service hardware store. Or an industrial janitorial supply. somebody has to still make the nice heavy metal cans. What kind of dust collector did you hook it to? That thing got a hemi?

Mike Hawkins

Bob Willing · 06-29-2009, 11:36 PM

I bought the same cyclone cover and I have it on a 30 gal galvanized can from ACE works great. My dust collector is the Delta 50-760 1200 cfm 1 1/2hp.

rrich · 06-30-2009, 01:56 AM

Gary,
I don't think that any galvanized trash can can stand up to a dust collector system with all of the ports closed.

Think of it this way, if you DC can suck to about 3 PSI below atmospheric pressure, your trash can is probably trying to support close to a ton of weight. (a.k.a. Pressure)

Tom Clark · 06-30-2009, 07:48 AM

My galvanized trash can has been in use for over 15 years and works fine. It has even held up with all the ports closed when I forgot to open the new port before closing the old ones. Maybe they were made better back then?

It is hooked up to the planer and shaper. As the photo shows, the table saw does not go thru the can first, as those chips are so small and it was easier to hook up this way.

Anyway, when running the planer a lot the can is very easy to empty compared to the bag on the dust colletor. By the way, mine is a grizzly 2hp 1029.

ACP · 06-30-2009, 08:09 AM

I definitely think they were made different in the past. The new ones are flimsy. I remember in boot camp I got busted talking pulling targets in the pits and the DI made me hold an old steel garbage can straight out. SOB was so heavy I could barely do it. One of these new ones doesn't hold a candle to it. The old ones seemed to be double thick in the walls. Tom, you have a phenomenal looking shop. I am jealous.

firefighteremt153 · 06-30-2009, 10:21 AM

Gary, i use a 55 gal blue drum, and made my own cyclone seperator. I'm right down the road from you if you wanna come over and check it out.

nelcatjar · 06-30-2009, 10:33 AM

I guess this is what you are talking about? I was think of getting the mini version to go on a 5 gallon bucket and use my shop vac. I have a small shop in my garage. Don't have room for a huge system. Plus I'm just a part time hobby wood worker.

My shop vac filter has to be cleaned often as it gets filled up with dust. I thought a cyclone separater might help that. But I hope the bucket does not get sucked in.

rrich · 06-30-2009, 03:18 PM

Tom,

Now I know what a shop to die for looks like.

Gary Beasley · 06-30-2009, 07:36 PM

Thats the one!

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Originally Posted by nelcatjar

I guess this is what you are talking about? I was think of getting the mini version to go on a 5 gallon bucket and use my shop vac. I have a small shop in my garage. Don't have room for a huge system. Plus I'm just a part time hobby wood worker.

My shop vac filter has to be cleaned often as it gets filled up with dust. I thought a cyclone separater might help that. But I hope the bucket does not get sucked in.

Gary Beasley · 06-30-2009, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by firefighteremt153

Gary, i use a 55 gal blue drum, and made my own cyclone seperator. I'm right down the road from you if you wanna come over and check it out.

Where did you get the drum from? I haven't been able to find any within a half hours drive. I'd love to come over for a visit, just have to figure when. Starting a new job soon and temping at another nearby shop right now which is taking up a bit of time from my leisure.

firefighteremt153 · 07-01-2009, 07:24 AM

Gary, i actually lucked up when I got my drum. It came from here at work and it used to hold foam concentrate that we keep in our foam tanks on our Fire Engines. We had used all of the foam in our tank on a fire and logistics brough us this huge 55 gal barrel to fill it back up. I guess they didn't know that the tank has to be filled from the top of the truck. Yeah, that was fun. Well let me know whenever you wanna come over to my place. I'll keep my eyes peeled for another drum and let you know if I find one.

woodnthings · 07-01-2009, 07:39 AM

Trash can cyclone lid from Woodcraft./
Thanks anyway. I found it Woodcraft #143290 for others that are interested. bill

woodnthings · 07-01-2009, 08:25 AM

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mtgrizzly52 · 07-01-2009, 04:44 PM

I bought my metal trash can from Lowes and it works great with my Deltal 1 hp dust collection system.

mtgrizzly52

chevyll_1967 · 07-01-2009, 05:20 PM

LOL hey woodnthings, now Iam really jealious of that shop lay out. my 12 x14 would fit inside that probably 6times. Also Tom Clark I'd give anything to have a shop that looks as good as yours also you guy's are making me do some serious dreaming now as to inlarging my shop. My wife gonna shoot me or hunt you guys down for giving me ideas lol again both are nice looking shops.

Gerry KIERNAN · 07-02-2009, 09:50 AM

I have my 4 inch cyclone lid on top of a Rubbermaid garbage can. My 2-1/2 cyclone lid sits on a 5 gallon plastic pail. Both work well. I always have at least one port open.

Gerry