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post #1 of 22 Old 02-25-2017, 11:35 PM Thread Starter
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18" Walnut Lazy Susan

I just started this project but thought I'd post a couple of photos before it is finished. This will be a round end grain Black Walnut cutting board about 18" diameter and 1.5" thick. I cut and milled all the stock yesterday and today and tonight we glued up the sticks. Before we started glueing I drew a layout in CorelDraw so I wouldn't waste any precious Walnut.

This is the board for the project - 4/4 rough, 12" wide, a bit over 8' long. The specification is for all heartwood so the little bit of sapwood on this board will go on other cutting boards or projects -


Here's the layout -


All the pieces glued up for the night. We used Titebond III even though it isn't a cutting board, just a Lazy Susan, mainly for the longer open working time. That's a lot of sticks to glue up if they start tacking right away!


And I had an opportunity to take an artsy shot prior to glueing the sticks together and I don't like to pass those up -


I probably won't have time tomorrow - busy day at church - but next I'll take these out of the clamps, surface lightly on the drum sander, then cut into strips about 1.6875" which should allow me a nice 1.5" finished thickness.

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Wow, I have a long way to go. Looks good.
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If you plan on using the cutting board walnut may not have been a good choice. Maple is normally used for a cutting board because it's a tight closed grain wood where walnut is a very open grain wood. Perhaps you can counter this by sealing the grain with a pastewood grain filler.
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If you plan on using the cutting board walnut may not have been a good choice. Maple is normally used for a cutting board because it's a tight closed grain wood where walnut is a very open grain wood. Perhaps you can counter this by sealing the grain with a pastewood grain filler.
Thanks, Steve, but it's a Lazy Susan - no cutting. However, I do use Walnut, Maple, and Cherry all the time for making cutting boards and they all seem to be doing fine with mineral oil and Beeswax. No complaints so far, anyway.

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If you plan on using the cutting board walnut may not have been a good choice. Maple is normally used for a cutting board because it's a tight closed grain wood where walnut is a very open grain wood. Perhaps you can counter this by sealing the grain with a pastewood grain filler.
Regardless of wood, I never use a wood board for meat, just doesn't make sense to me when acrylic cutting boards are cheap, clean easily, and aren't typically prone to holding any nasty things you don't want on your cutting board.

You can't wash, and disinfect a wood board well enough to insure no issues without harming the wood. There is a reason they don't use wood boards for meat in restaurants...

Wood boards(IMO) are for everything else but meats, and few if any of those things will penetrate the grain, and can easily be removed with damp cloth.
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I agree but to my knowledge, of the 40 or so cutting boards I've made, none have been used. Everybody says, 'They're too pretty to use.' I keep telling them that they can actually be used if they want but stay away from cutting meat on them.
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Had a few minutes before heading back to church and cut the boards into strips. We just set them sort of in order how they came off the saw but we'll probably move them around, flip some 180, etc. Also, I decided to cut them first and then run through the drum sander. It's a lot easier handling a bunch of small strips than trying to get a really large panel flat. We might get a chance to sand them after church tonight.


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this is a link to a study done about cutting board materials. note the last sentence in the 2nd paragraph.


there have been similar studies done by universities, with same results. wood is good! we stay away from walnut because it tends to feather after getting wet.


http://faculty.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/fa...ttingboard.htm
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I've read that before, Tim - good article. I enjoy telling folks that wood is better than plastic when it comes to cutting boards but don't cut meat on the wood board. It's kind of pointless because of the 40 or so cutting boards we've made only one has been used and that was my daughter cutting one tomato the other day and then quickly wiping the board off. Everyone seems to think you're only suppose to look at them - LOL!

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Glued up, sanded to 120, ready for the CNC to cut the recess for the Lazy Susan turntable and the outer profile.

Using the full width of the drum sander -


Sanded and smooth -
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Well, I sort of forgot I started this thread so here's the update - it's finished!! I used the CNC to cut the profile and a 1/32" recess for the outer race of the Lazy Susan bearing. I could have just used some thin washers under the inner race but it was easy to just cut the recess for the outer race.

Having a wide drum sander is really nice but the finest grit I have is 120 and that leaves noticeable straight line scratches. These scratches take a LONG time to get out with my DeWalt ROS so I broke out my 'old iron', an air operated 1/3 sheet orbital. This will seriously hog some material. A side note on the dust is that I used the downdraft sanding box we just built and even though the 1/3 sheet sander doesn't have any dust collection but creates a lot of dust, the downdraft box caught almost all of the dust this sander was kicking up and that was pretty nice.

The last cutting boards we did were only about 12" x 12" and took a solid hour of sanding with 120 grit on the ROS with about 5 changes of sanding pads. The 1/3 sheet sander with 120 grit did the entire top in 5 minutes - a significant difference, for sure. I sanded about 2 minutes, changed paper although the first sheet was probably ok, and then let my compressor catch up. After a short compressor rest I sanded the top again and then a quick pass on the underside. I followed up with the ROS for a few minutes and then hand sanded for a few minutes with 220 grit and it was glassy smooth.

It has a couple of coats of mineral oil followed by our mixture of Beeswax and mineral oil and then hand polished.

On the CNC (dust shoe removed so I could video and that will be posted soon) -


Straight line scratches -


The two sanders -


In process -


Underside with bearing -


Finished top side -


The 'glamour' shot - LOL!


When I finish the video I'll post it here - enjoy!
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turned out nice david!
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It occurs to me that y'all might be interested in my setup for some of the photos so here's one that I didn't post but I'll be using it on Etsy soon. There are other photographers here and you guys will enjoy this and probably be able to pick holes in my setup but it works ok for me. When my son moved out a couple of months ago we set his old room up as a studio setting, albeit a low budget and simple one, but I can take an item in there, place it on the table, turn the lights on and have good control over lighting for just about any item. Those of you that do photography may see this often but if you're not into photography this may be new to you.

For the Lazy Susan I decided to take one shot with it set on our table so I moved the lights to the dining area - that's what I'll show you below. Ignore the vacuum cleaner, guitar, and junk beside the table - temporary storage while we're cleaning out a spot elsewhere - what can I say... it's a lived in house! LOL!

Here's the shot straight off the camera, no post editing - not bad but could use some help -


Here's the final shot -


And here's the setup for the shot above -


For the photographers the camera is a Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ200, Leica lens, settings are ISO 100, f 2.8, 1/4 second, -0.33 eV, RAW 4000 x 3000 x 48b. The editor is ACDSee Ultimate and tools used were 20% dehaze, auto contrast and color 15%, exposure moved another -0.15 eV, and fill light bumped a few points, then resized to 1080 x 810 and saved as a jpg file.

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Wow. That is gorgeous. Walnut is one of those woods I'd love an opportunity to work with, but that price tag scares me away. That and my lack of experience woodworking. I don't think my year or 2 of steady woodworking experience would be enough to make something as pretty as it could be. One day though. It's beautiful.
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Turned out nice. Many at the shop have tried making tops with cross grain but have cracked under pressure. Brandon has a large cross cut coffee table to be glued up soon. We'll see how it goes. It's walnut and similar to yours..

Nice work...
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The final effect is superb! Of the photographs, the black-and-white shot wins them all - very nice shadow play.
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The final effect is superb! Of the photographs, the black-and-white shot wins them all - very nice shadow play.
Thanks! That's my favorite, as well.

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Great looking lazy susan. Where did you get the hardware from?
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