knotscott

How's $630 shipped to your door for a Jet ProShop 708480K JPS-30 sound? You'd be giving up cast iron wings to get it closer to $600, but those can be added easily anytime if you choose, plus you'd be gaining a top notch steel fence, one-piece cast swing arm carriage, great DC, a very efficient drive system, and a really nice paddle switch. That's alot of saw for that price IMHO.

Tom Hintz's review of the ProShop w/CI wings

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area123

Funny you should mention this now. I was just looking on Amazon at that Jet saw and getting ready to post here to see what people thought of it. There are no reviews for the 708480K but there is 1 great review for the 708481K ( I think it is the 50" version). I am looking on their site and can't see what the difference is between the 480K and the 482K except there's about $120 difference on Amazon.com & they have the description wrong there.

I'm seriously considering this saw now. Just want to go to HD and see what they have, so maybe I can use my 20% coupon from there.

knotscott

The ProShop series is all the same saw with different wings, longer fence, and/or a few other doo-dads, so many of the favorable comments apply from one model to the next.

That 20% coupon could come in handy for a planer...

area123

Ok, now which one to buy first. I need a planer too but think I would get more use from a table saw. But I have a table saw that works & no planer at all. If I spend $600 on a saw now I'll probably wait a few months for the planer & my coupon expires this weekend. What to do.... I think I'll go to HD and see what they have.

bigredc

You could buy which ever one is more expensive to get the most savings out of your coupon. You save money with the planer, because you can buy rough wood. I know what your going thru. That's a chunk of money. I always go back and forth.

knotscott

Yeah, most folks get more use from their saw, and it also tends to be a more personal tool than a planer....so, get a saw you really like.

Gerry KIERNAN

Hey bigredc
If you use 21/2 inch hosing it ties in nicely to a Shop-Vac. Just thought I'd mention here that I bought a 21/2 inch clear vinyl dust collection system from Busy Bee for about $75, on sale. It comes with nine sections of pipe, and pretty near everything you need to couple them up. They also carry hose in 21/2 and 4 inch sizes, as well as all kinds of dust hoods. www.busybeetools.com Worth a look, and you can order from the internet and they will ship at pretty reasonable rates.

Gerry

bigredc

That sound's like a done deal. I just spent the last 1/2 hour or more sweeping and blowing things off. And that's dragging my shop vac and rigging it up to whatever I can. Back to the saw, Area 123. I was just at Home depot today, they are doing a 15% off if you spend up to 400 and 20% off over that. Any thing in the store. They are giving away a Dewalt sander if you buy a jig saw.

daryl in nanoose

I found that site quite a while back when it was around 200 shots and I see they got past 800 now. Funny thing is I'm yet to post anything
If memory serves ( now that's a scary thought) I stumbled across it looking for dust collection idea's and now theres quite a few. I have always found a pictures worth a thousand words and in fact I quite often save pics and build from that so that site is a real blessing.

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daryl in nanoose

Sizing your hose depends on the collection device you have chosen. If its a shop vac then 2-1/2 is the way to go I would imagine but I do not use a shop vac for my bigger tools, just my portables.I don't see how a shop vac could run 4" pipe but the guys here on this site that are doing this would be far better off answering this question.
Again it all boils down to just how much dust your wanting to get rid of and of course budget.
In my situation I had virtually no budget but had 10 lengths of 4" metal pipe and a very large box of fittings. I manages to scrape some funds together and carefully looked around at prices for the system I could put in .
Some other things came into play here like lac of power in the shop, we are most likely going to be selling so I did not want to spend to much money or time into this but wanted to get the shop cleaner so I could spend more time woodworking and less time sweeping
So what I ended up doing was
I got a 1-1/HP dust collector, put it all on 4" piping as close to the tool I could get, added a extra 2-1/2" hose to the top pickup on my miter saw, added a 3" reduced down to 2-1/2"top pick up to my new table saw. I also used lots of blast gates.
I built my own air cleaner a few years ago which I still use today and bought a good dual filter dust mask to keep the super fine dust out of my lungs.
The system has been up and running since new years and is working pretty well, not perfect by any means but I have not picked up the broom for a week now . I am satisfied for now how its working and myself would consider this a minimum.
Hpefully I haven't bored you to death on this one.

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bigredc

Being a construction electrician, I have access to lots of the thin 4" PVC. Verizon drops it of in 20' length's for me to put in while I'm doing the electric service. There is always 50'-100' left over. I've had as much as 200'. They don't want it back. So It would be nice to be able to use that. I misunderstood what Gerry's suggestion was. I just want cheap 2 1/2" hose to use for now till I get a good system. I don't want to do my whole system in it. Before I do anything I'm going to educate myself on exactly what I want and need, and if it's is expandable. So I picked up a book. The Internet is great but there's nothing like a good book to learn from. It's funny this in my idea of a good book. I couldn't care less about novels and all that. I like your table saw set up.

daryl in nanoose

You have gotten a extremely good book on this. I bought the same one quite a while back and got tons of good info out of it. Good choice.

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Gerry KIERNAN

Hey bigredc, you lucky stiff
Hang on to that 4 inch pvc. That is a good size for a fairly serious dust collection system. If I ever get the digital know how I will show you something I came up with to collect the shavings from my thickness planer. I think it is picking up close to 100%.

Gerry

knotscott

I'd like to see that...please share!

daryl in nanoose

You mean your going to keep us in the dark

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area123

I went ahead and bought the Rigid 13" planer from HD. It had good reviews and I got to test it out and seems like a very solid machine. Has a lifetime warranty too. It produced a glass smooth finish on my Jatoba sample w/ little effort. The only downside is it's only 1 speed. It also has descent dust collection on it, came with a spare set of blades, dust hood, stand & tool kit for about $295.

Any opinions on this planer?

Paul K

I think you got a lot of good replies here, but I would agree those that suggest you look on Craigslist or other such lists. You may have to wait a few months to find one, but there are deals on great cabinet saws. Consider looking on sites like OWWM or others for sales of tools. I see unisaws and the like that are often $600 and sometimes much less. I have a unisaw and a powermatic 66 with a sliding table. Both are very good saws and I do believe that having a good saw is one of the most important things in the shop. As to your question about dust collection, I would look at the CFM that is required. I agree that larger systems are very nice, and if you are going to run permanent ducting to all the machines, and use blast gates, you probably need more than the 1 or even 1 1/2" collector. The problem is that by having a longer run, it just can't carry the particles in suspension for long distances with a smaller motor. I suggest that 1 hp or 1 1/2 hp probably shouldn't have a run longer than 10 feet to 20 foot max for the 1 1/2. (By the way, most table saws are NOT very good with dust collectors. There is usually too much leakage around the motor, the elevation adjustments, etc. It is probably true here that newer machines are better, but I wouldn't make that a reason not to buy an older saw) If you can't get a bigger dust collection system, move it around your shop.
good luck

bigredc

I was looking on Craig"s list last knight just to pass the time and look for deals. I came across 2 free window A/C units. I emailed them. They got back and said I could come over tonight. By the time I got hold of him tonight they were already gone. Between the 2 of them I was sure I could have made a dust filter. O well. That kind of stuff comes around a lot though. Good luck with the planer. I think that was the way to go. Now save some more and keep an eye out for a better saw.

daryl in nanoose

Contact a few of your local hvac contractors, it would not surprise me if they would give you one

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bigredc

Good idea.