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don716 02-05-2009 06:44 PM

Routers
 
What kind and how many routers do you have? Which do you use most? I'm just thinking of getting another one but courious of how many use theirs alot. Right now my (hand-me down) craftsman 1hp. is mounted under a table and I'm tired of removing it every time I need to. I don't use one very often and I'm not a pro by no means so I don't need a top of the line model. Just a hobby model will do.I looked at Craftsman today and seen some nice ones for under $120.00 with a plunge attachment. I've looked at Porter Cable too and they have some nice ones. A little more $$$ but they might be worth it.What are your opinions?

Donny

~WoodChuck~ 02-05-2009 07:07 PM

i like the medium size porter cables.I have never had a problem with any of them. I find they are a lot lighter than other brands of the same size and are just comfortable to use.I also have a Hitachi which is brand new, I have only used it a few times because i tend to grab the porter cable 1st. The Hitachi is a lot cheaper but seems to be well built.Well thats my take on this, hope it helps.

AZ Termite 02-05-2009 07:30 PM

I have a medium sized Porter-Cable. It came with a fixed base and a plunge base. It also came with 1/4" and 1/2" collets, I have the fixed base mounted in my router table, and I use the plunge base for freehand work. I had a Craftsman before and by far the Porter-Cable is better.

BHOFM 02-05-2009 07:55 PM

I have a 1/2HP B&D that I really like, it does most
of what I need, round overs and small rabbits.
I have a 1 1/2HP Craftsman that does the rest.

The B&D came from a pawn shop for $5 and is
old.

Yes, having two routers is a plus. I have a small plastic
router table that does the job, nothing fancy.

If I did cabinet doors I would most likely get a bigger
router, but I don't plan on it.

knotscott 02-05-2009 07:55 PM

I started with a $40 Craftsman 9 amp with 1/4" collet that was a great starter. I added a big Freud FT2000 15 amp (3hp) for table use...two routers were great, and I liked the 1/2" shank bits, so I bought a Milwaukee 5615 11 amp (single speed) BodyGrip for hand use. Liked the MW so much that I bought a Milwaukee 5625 3hp for table use....a monster powerhouse. Then I stumbled on a great deal on a Freud FT1700 with excellent above table features for table use (this is my most used router)...the MW5625 is more powerful, and is what I use for heavyduty stuff, but the FT1700 is in my table most of the time. I also took advantage of a great deal on a Bosch 1617 (single speed), but really wanted VS so I sold it and bought a Hitachi M12VC for dovetail, inlay, and hand use....very nice little inexpensive router.

I have since sold the FT2200 and MW5615 to finance the 5625...would love to have the MW5616 BodyGrip with VS. Also sold the original Craftsman as part of a TS deal. I'm currently down to 3 that see regular use...MW5625, FT1700, and Hitachi M12VC.

firehawkmph 02-05-2009 11:20 PM

Don,
Check around on the site, we just had a router thread a few weeks ago that had a lot of good information in it on choosing a router.
Mike Hawkins;)

johnv51 02-06-2009 11:39 AM

PC 690 with 2 bases, regular and plunge, PC 7518 on the table and a couple of Craftsman sitting in the corner getting dusty.

Tom5151 02-06-2009 11:57 AM

I have the Bosch combo kit (fixed and plunge) and i really like it a lot. Mind you I am pretty new and don't have a whole lot to compare it to, but as a beginner i can really say it is a pleasure to use.....

dbhost 02-06-2009 02:42 PM

My routers have consisted of...

#1. Ryobi R161 1.5HP 1/4" collet fixed base router. Recently sold to a friend of mine. Great little machine, with enough power to do EVERYTHING he will ever want to do with it.

#2. Black and Decker Firestorm FS1200RP 1/4" / 1/2" collet plunge router. It works well as a handheld router, but has a LOT of drawbacks. It wouldn't break my heart if it died or got stolen...

#3. Hitachi KM12VC 2.25HP fixed / plunge base combo kit. Absolutely LOVE this router. Will likely buy a second one soon. Smooth as silk, quiet (for a router), and extremely predictable behavior. Soft start works the way you expect it to, and the variable speed is a dream to work with... Spins my biggest to my smallest bits.

Yes there are a LOT of advantages of having two routers. Having two matching routers helps a lot too...

If I didn't have the Hitachi, I would have snagged a pair of the Freud Avanti 2.25HP fixed / plunge base kits. I hear EXCELLENT reports on these routers, and they are cheap right now...

knotscott 02-06-2009 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dbhost (Post 64588)
...If I didn't have the Hitachi, I would have snagged a pair of the Freud Avanti 2.25HP fixed / plunge base kits. I hear EXCELLENT reports on these routers, and they are cheap right now...

I currently have both the Hitachi M12VC 2hp and the Freud FT1700 2-1/4hp. I like both of these routers a lot for different reasons, and plan to keep both around for a good long time. The Hitachi is small, well balanced, nimble, and quiet....perfect for hand use IMO. The FT1700 is also fine for hand use, but it's really good in the router table...one handed above table bit changes sure are convenient! :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Tom5151 (Post 64562)
I have the Bosch combo kit (fixed and plunge) and i really like it a lot. Mind you I am pretty new and don't have a whole lot to compare it to, but as a beginner i can really say it is a pleasure to use.....

Tom - The Bosch is one of the most popular kits on the market. Very well made router with a huge happy following...few worries there!

Tom5151 02-06-2009 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knotscott (Post 64600)
I currently have both the Hitachi M12VC 2hp and the Freud FT1700 2-1/4hp. I like both of these routers a lot for different reasons, and plan to keep both around for a good long time. The Hitachi is small, well balanced, nimble, and quiet....perfect for hand use IMO. The FT1700 is also fine for hand use, but it's really good in the router table...one handed above table bit changes sure are convenient! :thumbsup:



Tom - The Bosch is one of the most popular kits on the market. Very well made router with a huge happy following...few worries there!

Yep...i really like it.......very smooth and comfortable to use. I think I may get another fixed base for it to keep in my router table

Geoguy 02-06-2009 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom5151 (Post 64562)
I have the Bosch combo kit (fixed and plunge) and i really like it a lot. Mind you I am pretty new and don't have a whole lot to compare it to, but as a beginner i can really say it is a pleasure to use.....

Tom, I have a Bosch 1617 varible speed but I didn't get the plunge base. The big Bosch is very powerfull, works great and only works upside down under the router table (I have a couple others for hand work). I've noticed the magnesium case/body gets a corrosion that makes it hard to slip into the fixed base mounted under the table. A little steel wool and WD40 seems to fix it for a while but the corrosion-type coating seems to re-appear after a few weeks to months. Do you have the same problem or any tips to remedy this problem?

Thanks,
Terry

Tom5151 02-09-2009 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geoguy (Post 64626)
Tom, I have a Bosch 1617 varible speed but I didn't get the plunge base. The big Bosch is very powerfull, works great and only works upside down under the router table (I have a couple others for hand work). I've noticed the magnesium case/body gets a corrosion that makes it hard to slip into the fixed base mounted under the table. A little steel wool and WD40 seems to fix it for a while but the corrosion-type coating seems to re-appear after a few weeks to months. Do you have the same problem or any tips to remedy this problem?

Thanks,
Terry

Hi Terry,

I have not had the problem to this point. if I do though I think your method for correcting makes great sense. I wonder if a little paste wax might be okay to use preventatively?

Ash 02-09-2009 04:39 PM

I just pulled the plug on a Bosch 1617 router kit with plunge base from here http://www.coastaltool.com/bosch/1617evspk.htm
It comes free with this Edge guide kit - Is it useful at all?

knotscott 02-09-2009 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ash (Post 65082)
I just pulled the plug on a Bosch 1617 router kit with plunge base from here http://www.coastaltool.com/bosch/1617evspk.htm
It comes free with this Edge guide kit - Is it useful at all?

Excellent router, and yes, the edge guide is handy IMO. :thumbsup:

Mort Tenon 02-09-2009 08:23 PM

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I have the Bosch 1617 in my Ryobi table,(you can't see it here, but you all seem to be familiar with it) and I have a Hitachi M12SC combo fixed/plunge base for edge trimming and other things more easily done off the table. The circle guide works well, but I don't use it a lot.

mwhafner 02-10-2009 09:21 AM

I have an old PC 690 with the plunge and fixed base. Great little combo - well balanced, accurate, and plenty powerful for most applications. It has also been very durable. I have had it for about 15 years and not a minutes trouble. It takes the PC bushings without adapters or special bushings, which is a real plus for me. If you don't need a plunge base, you can get the fixed base version for $99. The only downside is dust collection, which is becoming more and more important to me.

The Bosch 1617 kit is a great buy and a spectacular router. I also have a Festool OF1400, and the 1617 is almost as smooth. The Bosch has started to unseat the PC as my go to router.

I also have a couple of DeWalt 618 motors and all three bases. The plunge base is great, and I like the D-Handle base is some situations, but cannot stand the fixed base. It creeps horribly.


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