Corndog

A buck and a half should be fine. Mine's a 1 GP. That's Geoff power. just me a broom and a WHOLE lotta shavings. Werks fer me...

Glad you got over the whole SAWSLOP thing.... I do believe they're in cahoots with the blade manufacturers tho....

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Kingfisher

You will never be happy with 110v if you are using an existing service that is 110, will it hold up to a saw or planer running with the dustcollection system too? How far is the run? Don't build the nice shop you want and not be able to run the tools You also need to figure in the lights, heat/ac,and the tools. This would have to be a 220v load?

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regis

i know 110V is not great but it will have to do. It the shop makes money some day maybe i will upgrade but for now i can't justify the cost. I guess i will have a 75A breaker for it. it should be more than enough to run everything i want since we have a . i will be alone so 2 tools will never run together.

bigredc

I'm an electrician, I don't understand how you are going to have a 75 amp 110. There is no such thing. Unless you adding up the 110 breakers. In that case it's very easy to change one of the circuits to 220/240. I didn't read every post, Is this a separate building. I would be glad to help talk you thru anything you might want to do. If you live near me, I'd even stop by to give you some pointers. I'm in West Chester Pa. I would think the sawstop saw would be 240. Have you checked that? Also there are lot's of very good hardly used power tool's for sale on ebay and many other places. Granted it will take a little longer. I have about $2000 or less in my shop. I met a guy from ebay that has beautiful band saw's, lathes and jointers. I have everything except a Something you might not think of is an air compessor. I use the heck out of mine. Most important, have fun. Good luck

jimmiet.

I agree with Bigredc, you should have 220 comming into you shop breaker box and shut off switch. Unless you have one leg from house to shop? should'n cost much to change it. I wired my shop with 110 plugs and 220 for machines with a little help form a buddy. Had a elec contractor wire in my big planer 3phase converter heaver wire & breaker for about a hundred bucks. powermatic 180 comercial planer picked up at a school auction for $250.00 dollars smooth a silk.

regis

i should have said 75 amp coming to the panel not a 75A baker my bad.
i have a 200A service.

i have indeed one leg from house to shop
(well actually more like 10 feet) I asked a few quotes and i can;t afford it and from what i was able to understand doing it myself would still require around $500 of "stuff".

Also if i install 220/240 myself i can't insure the shop. so here are the pros and cons.

bigredc

The price of copper is thru the roof these days. It might not be a bad idea to another quote. I'm sure you'll be fine eather way. When working alone you can only use one tool at a time. So you don't realy need a ton of amps 75 is more that enough. Something else you can add on your own is lot's of lights. As we get older the 32nd scale on the ruler and those pensile lines get hard to see.

regis

yes i decided to use economy fluorescent bulbs, 150 watts ones. i think i will go with 10 it should be enough, for some tools i will also add some dedicated lights.75a is the double of what i would need at maximum running the 2 most powerful tools i will get.

Gerry KIERNAN

Hi Regis

Welcome to the forum. With regard to your question of inexpensive cabinetry router bits: I have just purchased some sets for drawer and door, and raised panelling, from Princess Auto, and from Boss tools. They are 1/2 inch shank, and look pretty good. I haven't tried them out yet, but when I get the chance to I'll let you know how they work out.

If there is any way you can possibly put 220/240 volt wiring into your shop it would definitely pay off in the long run.

Good luck building the shop. 30 by 30 is a good start.

Gerry

bigjoedo

Regis,

This may be a dumb question: Are you building a structure on the 30X30 slab. With the price of building materials that can run $10,000 or more depending where you live.

We just built a 24X32 pole barn which was $10,000 plus $2000 for concrete. Fortunately, you already have the concrete.
Good luck on your shop. The folks on this site are very helpful and knowledgeable.

Joe

regis

i am doing it myself with the help my brother in law. so it is just building materials. i budgeted 1500 to 3000 roughly. depending if i take half or the whole slab.

regis

jut to clarify for those who are i am sure already calling me insane.

i simply can't afford a great nice shop so the frame will be good but the outside will be painted wood. i will add inside drywall and insulation only if i can afford it. it will be an over sized garden shed for the moment.

bigredc

Just don't let your wifes friends know you spent $7000 on toys and still don't have sheet rock. But seriously that goes back to what some of us have said. Take your time. Think it thru. If you can do without a tool, so you can be warm in the winter. Ultimately it's your money. This is just fun for all of us to help you spend your money. LOL

Gerry KIERNAN

Take the whole 3000 square feet, even if you have to scrimp a bit on the toys. You will be amazed how fast space can disappear when you start woodworking.

Gerry

regis

well...apparently the shop will have to wait a little.

my wife has an herniated disk and is in great pain...o far the medical bills are 2000 and we haven't seen the neuro surgeon yet because the ER screw up the referral (amongst other things like not having sent my wife to do an MRI the first day because the ER "do not send people for MRI, they need to take the appointment themselves" dixit the ER chief. For info the pain is at 10, vicodin has almost no effect and she usually spend half the night crying of pain , her shoulder is twice the normal size and one of her finger is numb....

I could go on venting for hours on how bad the ER service was but for now i am so mad that they screw up the referral that i can;t think.


anyway...at least now that the shop is out of the way i have time to
take care of her. will put together the king bed with the foam mattress and go buy the bed set she wants and some flowers

TexasTimbers

The shop is trivial and will happen when it is supposed to. Take care of your wife. I can tell you are.

I pray her pain will become manageable soon and the source be resolved so she can get well soon.

I know what you are going through I went throughit recently with the ER and them not doing an MRI when that is exactly what I needed. i get to have mine the 19th (rescheduled from the 12th because I did not want to ruin my wife's birthday which was on the 12th; my wife was not happy I resheduled the MRI!). Although my pain is manageable now I still wake up in the middle of the night and eat another round of narctics.

Not trying to post a "me too" just letting you know I know exactly the frustration of ERs and MRI's when nerve pain is invloved less the trauma. They usually only do them in severe cases involving head trauma in wrecks etc. and won't do one for walk-ins with no doctor referral.

Keep us posted my heart goes out to her - that level of pain is terrible to have to live with.

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Al Killian

Well if I was told I "HAD" to have a certain tools or no shop, well let's just say my shop would not happen.

As far as tools go. Entering into turning can eat up alot of cash and quickly. For turning you are going to need a lathe(thing big lathe, unless you plan on only makeing small thing), decent chisels($100+), face plates, chucks and a bandsaw(atleast a 14") for cutting blanks. For the basics I would go with a decent table saw, stationary planer, 8" jointer and a nice cyclone system. You can wish, however you will not get everything on your list for $7k, unless you plan on buying tools now(cheap ones) then upgrading later.

Gerry KIERNAN

I am so sorry to hear about your wife regis. I agree with TT. Take care of your sweetie. the rest is trivial. We will all be pulling for you, and for her.

Gerry

Basset

Would you please have your wife talk to my wife.

Congratulations, Keep us posted on the progress.