Ratt

Ok I know I need to get a good one but never useing one before how well will it keep dust from getting all over my shop Ill tell you why the main shop will be shared with my cars and nascar stuff I would like this shop to work if stays clean its the largest one at 1800sf and if thay work so so with some dust Ill have to put my woodshop in work bay with lift,tools and bench this part of shop is 640sf will be a little close when I get all the tools for woodworking and car tools in the same room but this one does have AIR it gets hot here sometimes all has heat so you guys that have vacs systems how well do that work and whats going price on a good one

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GeorgeC

Whew, I am out of breath trying to read that. It really helps if you break long writeups into more than one sentence.

If I was able to get your drift, you want to know how a vacuum will help with dust in a shop. First, it will not eliminate all dust. Primarily it will keep down the big loads IF you have a dust collection port on your tools. This will enable you to hook the vacuum directly to the tool and collect MOST of the chips and dust as you are cutting. Second, it is naturally very useful in its long used role to clean up after dust and dirt are deposited on surfaces.

I hope that is what you wanted to know.

George

Jim Tank

Sorry, Ratt. In 640 sq ft, if you cut or sand boards, even with dust collectors, your NASCAR stuff is going to bet dusty. Ambient air collectors will help when used with tool dust collectors but after a few hours of woodworking, you'll find that it would be better to build a second building for the shiny car stuff if there is a "No Dust Allowed" policy in your car shop.

Sleeper

I don’t have a dust collection system myself. The best I’ve been able to do is connect a shop vacuum to my table saw or my miter saw, but I have also been thinking about it this.
I noticed in some of the shop photos posted here that there is some sort of filter systems hanging from the shop ceilings. Many years ago my work had similar looking filters for smokers before smoking was banned from the work place. Can anybody with one those things hanging from the ceiling comment on their dust solution? I did notice that those same shops looked pretty clean.

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timbertoes

with both a dust collector and one overhead air filter system...........

dust, dust, dust. always.

thats just the way it goes.

Bigred15

Currently, my shop is around 700sf, and I have no dust collector. To keep the dust down the best I can, I use a shop vac to collect chips coming from the tools, and a box fan sitting in a window to keep the air breathable. This does an admirable job, but everything is always covered in dust. If I keep the door closed to the room next to the shop, most of that stuff will stay pretty clean. So the answer is no, your shiny stuff will constantly be covered in dust.

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da Yooper

I have a Clearvue cyclone and a Jet Air filtration system. These two have really helped reduce the dust. My shop is about 560 square feet and I still have dust. I have several portable power tools not connected to the dust collector or vacuum. I also have to complete my down draft table for sanding.

The dust collection equipment seems to minimize the dust, but not entirely eliminate it. Once I get things set up so I use dust collection, the shop will be less dusty, but it wont be spotless.

Just my $0.02.

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Wood4Fun

I'd have to agree with what everyone else has said so far in some form.... in order to completely eliminate dust, you need a serious collector, with serious ductwork all over the place.. to every piece of equipment. The table saw will need one of those arms that hovers over the blade (I don't know what they are called). AND, you need an air handler

With the size space you have, it simply isn't feasible to get it dust free... you will take up all the space with the anti dust system you put in place.

My shop is in my garage. I share with a car, motorcycle, LOML's hobby area, home storage, house repair tools, motorcycle maintenance tools, etc, et al. I've just accepted that this stuff is going to get dusty. I also have four dogs who seem to endlessly shed hair, it is a wonder that they are not all bald.
On a somewhat regular basis, I break out the leaf blower, open up all the doors, put on a mask, and blow the crap out of my shop/garage.
Up until recently I was connecting my shop vac to each tool, but that got old quick... constantly moving it around and also the filters get clogged fast and the hopper fills quickly. I picked up a small Jet 650 dust collector that actually has a smaller foot print that the vac. I got a slinky hose from Rockler. I still have to move the hose around, but for the most part the unit stays in one place. Not only do I have less time spent emptying the hopper, I've noticed the dust reduction overall in the shop is better... but not perfect and I never expect it to be that way.

Sleeper

Amen! That’s exactly what I do.
That sounds pretty good. Maybe I’ll try that.
My biggest complaint with the shop vac is the added noise and shocking the crap of out of me every time I touch the hose from static electricity.

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Wood4Fun

I picked up my slightly used Jet DC650 for $150 off Craigslist. DC's are not listed as much as other tools, and when one is listed it might not be the "one" you are looking for, but I stayed true and eventually someone listed this unit.

Yeah, the noise was something I didn't think to mention in my OP here... shop vacs are noisy, and they are more high pitched. This Jet DC I got is surprisingly quiet. I typically leave it running if I am going from one tool to the other (and moving the hose), where with the vac, shutting down that thing was the first thing I would do.