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post #21 of 49 Old 03-04-2008, 01:02 PM
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The Ridgid TS3650/TS3660 is now down to $467. I have a 10% HD coupon good until 3/16 that you're welcome too (brings it to ~ $420). It's a good saw for the money, and huge improvement to the benchtops.

The Hitachi is a hybrid which has the advantages that come from having the motor tucked inside, but the the wings, the fence, the legs, and wheels are not as good as the Ridgid's IMHO. Still a good saw and huge improvement though if you want it. I've also got a Lowe's 10% coupon good until 3/6 if you want that one, but we're running out of time to get it to you.

The Jet Workshop 708100 (pictured in one of my responses above) is also a hybrid within your new budget. I like it better than the Hitachi, but that's just my opinion.

$450 should buy just about any used contractor saw you stumble into and maybe even a cabinet saw. That Craftsman 22114 on Craigslist is very similar to the $1100 22124 you mentioned...has even more rip capacity and a better extension table. Those are very stable saws with cabinet mounted trunnions, great fence, and good dust collection. You might try offering him your $450 and see what he says...that'd be a sweet setup if you have room.

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End Grain, I totaly understand. I made sure to ask if I could return it even if I used it and they said that if I was unhappy with it even if it was used I could bring it back within 30 days. vbmenu_register("postmenu_25360", true);
Smart man! Glad to hear that you thought enough to cover your back on this one. Go no further with it. Take it back and take a look-see at some of the nifty table saws these good folks are recommending. Also, you might want to check around locally for retiring woodworkers looking to sell off their equipment. In-store deals are always out there so be patient and look around for a good one. That 10% $299 No Pay No Interest one from Home Depot is my occasional salvation. Try not to ignore some of the on-line ones as well, especially where free shipping is offered. These folks here can tell you what models are good investments.

If, at some time, you'd ever consider a Bosch portable contractor's table saw like the discontinued TS4000-07, I can shed a lot of light on that particular model as I've owned one for years. It's my mainstay. Matter-of-fact, I wrote a rather lengthy evaluation of it on here a while back.

Someday, I hope to have the physical room to have a larger cast iron table saw in my shop/garage.

Happy hunting there djonesax!

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knotscott, in my area the The Ridgid TS3650/TS3660 is $550.00+. Did you look that up online? What is your zipcode, maybe tyhe prices are different per area?
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Folks on the Ridgid site have been talking about it as if it's a current price nationwide. You might try calling a few stores and asking if it's a saw you're interested in.
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Thank you all for the advice and patience to answer all my questions.

I think I have settled on the Rigid TS3660. I have read tons of reviews and this seems like a great saw for the price. When I start getting into this kind of money I prefer to buy new just incase something goes wrong. I wouldn’t have a problem spending $200 on a used saw but because I am so new to table saws, I think new is best for me. Perhaps if I out grow this one I will look for a good used one like that craftsman on craigslist. Although, unless I upgrade from weekend warrior status I doubt I will out grow this saw for a long time.

I do have one final question though. If I ever had the urge to have a longer rip capability or even just to have a larger work area. Can I extend this table in a way that I can still use the same fence? Like maybe a work bench with an MDF top and a piece of angle iron for the fence to ride on?

Knotscott, thanks for the coupon offer. No need to send it though I found one online. Incase any body is interested I found this coupon for HD for 10% off and it’s good until 3/11/2008
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/html/emails/9/GO/Images/Go_Coupon.jpg


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By the way that is an harbor freight coupon but supposedly HD will honor competitors coupons. I read on the rigid forum that some else has done this.
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I called the HD store and they have it for $549.00 and they'll honor the coupon which brings it to $494.00. Too bad I cant get it for 467 plus 10% off, that would be nice.
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I called the HD store and they have it for $549.00 and they'll honor the coupon which brings it to $494.00. Too bad I cant get it for 467 plus 10% off, that would be nice.
I think HD has some price guarantees, so if their price drops to the $467 mark that we're hearing about, take your receipt back and have them credit you the difference....either that or drag the beast in and park in their doorway for them to deal with, and tell them you're just going to return then and buy a new one!
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You can do whatever your imagination can think of as far as extensions. I have side extensions on mine, and my work bench is lined up as an out feed. You can buy stuff, but the way I look at it, it's good practice, and fun building stuff for your shop. There are all kinds of jigs you will end up building. You'll want a panel sled eventually. That saw opens up a whole new world, It did for me. There is ton's of stuff on line to learn from. You tube has lots of pod casts on woodworking. You just do a search for woodworking. Wear safety glasses, buy a few pair when you pick up the saw. That way if you can't find a pair there's no excuse not to wear them. Have fun, and be careful.
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I called the HD store and they have it for $549.00 and they'll honor the coupon which brings it to $494.00. Too bad I cant get it for 467 plus 10% off, that would be nice.
Print this and take it with you to HD... Select tools down 20% (30% w coup) at the BORG (Ad scan here). Or this one (.pdf) that came from the Ridgid website... March Race for Savings 20% RIDGID.

Sale starts 03/06/08
Sale Ends 03/12/08

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OK... So, I get there and the price is actually 467.00 despite the person on the phone telling me 549.00. BUT they wouldn’t take my 10% coupon because it was printed from the internet and not a "real coupon". So I bought it anyway but left it there to pick up later tonight. I was on my lunch break. I drove to another HD store and asked if they would take the coupon. The manager said no but to be nice she would discount it 10% anyway. She told me to stop by the store after I pick it up from the other stire and she would return it and resell it to me for 10% less. Sweet. Very nice lady. So I got my saw for $420 after all. I'm excited to get it home, set it up and use it.
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Congrats to you! This whole class of saw is so much more substantial than what you had and were looking at. I'm not usually much of a Ridgid cheerleader, but that's a good price for a nice saw... I really don't think you can do much better for $420. At that price, it'll hold value well too. Heck, you could probably use it for three or four years, and resell it for $300-$350 pretty fast...the end cost should be lower than the cheapy $200 benchtops in the longrun. Take good care of it. With a good blade, good alignment, and basic care it should serve you well for a lifetime. There's also some room to grow...the miter gauge and the fence are standard size, so many aftermarkets versions are available should you ever decide to upgrade in the future.... Check out this rig!

Setup tips ...be sure to browse the Ridgid site for the skinny on getting your Lifetime Service Agreement registered properly.

Be safe and enjoy!
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ok, so I stopped by the other HD store to do the whole refund and re purchase thing to get an additional 10% off. The lady made a mistake and gave me to much of a disount. $178 instead of the $47 she was supposed to give me. I tried to tell her 3 times that she made a mistake but she kept telling me I was the one whoe didnt understand while being rude and condescending. She even got a manager to approve the transaction. So I figured after trying to tell her 3 times and her being rude to me on top of that, I'll take the $178. That brought the total saw purchase down to $319.88 with tax.

No complaints, here.
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Oh and also they almost gave me a 3650 and not a 3660. I'm gald I checked before I left the store.
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Just for some clarification about the original point of the post. As far as the budget range you were pointed in, there are some fine saws for what they are in that price range. Most of the answers here were along the lines of "if it isn't a high end cabinet saw it's crap", or similar. Which is a fine and legitimate point of view, but somewhat flawed. The saws you were looking at were either bench top, or contractor type saws. If you have nothing but tons of money, and space, not to mention 220v power routed into your shop, a big cabinet saw sure is nice to work on. But I can tell you, at least two of the saws you mentioned in your first post (which are really the same saw with different color plastics and name badges) are once set up, nice cutting solid running saws...

Take a good look at the Craftsman 21806 http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...=&cName=&sName and the Ryobi BTS21 http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...ctId=100593232 and you will see they are essentially the same saw with different color plastic, different paint on the table, and a different name plate.

I have had my BTS21 for less than 2 months now, but I have already clocked about 24 working hours on it, and have loaned it to a friend for him to finish up a cabinet project. After a short setup that is well documented in the manual, we both found this saw to run strong and straight running through pine, birch, oak, solid, ply, and of course lots of MDF.

If you read the reviews on both saws, yeah there is going to be a bad review, every product should have them, but they are essentially a very good contractor type saw.

I am sure you will be happy with your Ridgid, and I would have totally been all over buying one myself if I could have swung that sort of deal... But just remember, just because you have the expensive brand names doesn't mean you are a great woodworker. That comes from you, not your tools...

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I totally agree. I was thinking actually that the topic of this post should be changed to not be so misleading. Those saws are probably totally fine for a lot of projects and I struggled between the rigid 3660 and those two saws because I wanted the portability that the Rigid doesn’t offer. I also dabble in real-estate and wanted something that I could take to a job site. I read the reviews on all those saws and if you can get past all the negative feedback there are some good reviews scattered in there and also some back to reality reviews. For instance the saw that I bought initially, was what it was. A $149.00 saw. One shouldn’t expect all the features of a $500.00 saw in a $149.00 saw. As a job site saw cutting molding and other simple stuff, I’m sure my $149.00 would have been fine. The Ryobi got pretty good reviews.

When I got to thinking about some of the projects that I wanted to do at home in the future is when I decided to go with the Rigid. I will use this saw at home way way way more than at any job site.

Heck, I may still purchase one of those others down the road so that I can throw it in a truck and go. For now my miter saw does all I need.


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I can't find a picture of the 3660. I found the 3650. Do they look the same? You got one great deal. Do you know to wax your table and fence? It makes a huge difference. I wax all my power tool surfaces.
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It's funny, even on the rigid website the model number is still 3650. They do look the same, though. I beleive they have made some improvements to the table legs. But other than that I dont think there are many differences.

Here is a link to another thread about this same topic
http://www.ridgidforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15249
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You are gonna love that saw, Nice choice!
I have the ts 2400 which is the portable saw Ridgid makes.
The Rigid forum is great site for advice on that
particular saw. as here, they are a great bunch over there.


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OK, well I got the saw put together and finally finished my bookcase. This saw compared to my original craftsman is a monster. In a good way. The one thing that struck me the most, other than the stability and heft was how quite it ran.

The blade was square right out of the box.

There were a few places in the instructions that could have been clearer but for the most part they were easy to read and understand.

Also, it is amazing how easily 323lbs move using the herculift system. In the store the system wasn’t installed properly and it didn’t work well. So I was pleasantly surprised when I got it assembled.

6.5 hours is what it took me and a friend to set it up. From looking at the parts in the box I would never have expected it to take that long. If I had to do it again I could do it much faster, of course. The nice thing about having to put it together is that you know exactly how to break it down, if you need to repair something.

Anyway thanks everyone for all the help. I'm sure this is the first of many threads for me on this forum.

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