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Everyone who knows me, knows how much I love scrolling. I had this scroll saw given to me last week. I need to clean it up a bit as they had blades stuck to the saw with masking tape and the tape left residue on the saw and the table. Other than that, I want to keep this original. I plugged it in and it still works!!! Maybe a little tune up is in order, and after that, I think I will just retire this old fella for display purposes only. Anyone have any info on this one or seen one like it? I tried (briefly) to look it up, but couldn't find anything on this particular model.
Just thought you might like to see it.
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This is a picture of the chain drive underneath the machine that runs the blade.
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and of course, the old motor. Still kicking!!!!
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That's all I could find with a quick search as well Daren. Thanks for trying. It's still a pretty cool tool. Kinda like a little piece of history. Wish it could talk.......it would probably tell me how it sat in a garage for so many years as a neglected tool that someone thought they wanted, but never used.

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Cool tool!

It will look great on the top shelf.

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Digging a little deeper.

So I'm still searching for information. I decided to go a little different route and research the trademark logo of Burgess Vibrocrafters Inc. or BVI.

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It would appear that this particular logo was filed for registration on August 17th of 1959 and registered on April 1, 1960.













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This was the new logo used by Burgess and was filed for registration on April 13, 1965 and registered on July 22, 1966.

That would place the tools manufacturing date somewhere between 1960 and 1966. 50 years old? Maybe.

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BVI got patent for scroll saw in 1950. Sold to Acme Burgess who went out of business in 1989
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Really neat saw. I recently sold a craftsman that was similar but used a belt drive and was a little bigger. I did find an interesting article. Seems that Burgess got into a dispute with another company over the design of your saw. Makes for some interesting reading anyway. http://openjurist.org/204/f2d/311/bu...ins-industries Will let you know if I find anything else.
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Interesting read. Thanks.

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I found what I think is your saw. It was marketed as a tote saw a table top band saw is the description given.
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date somewhere between 1960 and 1966. 50 years old? Maybe.
50 YEARS OLD !!

Come on.. I was born in '66 and I'm only 44 ... I really dont want to know 1966 is that close to 50 years old !



Oh, and that tool is almost as cool as this tool...



I cut it 3 times..... and it's still too short.

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You're Missing the Fan Blade

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Currently restoring one just like it. I want to make it look like new because it belonged to my dad. I, too, tried to find info on this saw. Came across patent drawings and info here (http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=0...RS=PN/02848021). I'm missing the motor chuck on the side and the air tube from the piston to the guide wheel tube (can't find size that will fit both openings)

There is a fan blade that goes on the 1/4" part of motor shaft (the belt side) that's held down by a rectangular push on retainer (clip). I guess it's to cool the motor. I noticed it's missing in your photos. The one on mine was completely loose so I'll replace the retainer when I'm done.

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Currently restoring one just like it. I want to make it look like new because it belonged to my dad. I, too, tried to find info on this saw. Came across patent drawings and info here (http://pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?docid=0...RS=PN/02848021). I'm missing the motor chuck on the side and the air tube from the piston to the guide wheel tube (can't find size that will fit both openings)

There is a fan blade that goes on the 1/4" part of motor shaft (the belt side) that's held down by a rectangular push on retainer (clip). I guess it's to cool the motor. I noticed it's missing in your photos. The one on mine was completely loose so I'll replace the retainer when I'm done.

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Great information there. Thanks. Could you post a picture of your saw and the fan that you are talking about?

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You mean Kenbo, you're not done with that project yet?
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BVI also made a bandsaw. they seemed sized for light duty crafters. we had one and sold it about 4 yrs ago. in my younger days I would have given anything for it. remind me of the youngster wood tools (lathe etc.) the richer kids got for Christmas.


your seems more substantial tho.
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You mean Kenbo, you're not done with that project yet?
There was really nothing to finish. Just cleaned it up and it now hangs on the wall of my shop as a display.

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That unit is a great piece of woodworking history! As you have discovered - piece parts will be difficult to find, but maybe some day someone could make you a $ offer. Thanks for sharing, and be safe.
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